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Poll: Invites Game? (27 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you continue

  1. Pass (2 votes [7.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.41%

  2. 3[diamonds] (5 votes [18.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.52%

  3. 4[hearts] (19 votes [70.37%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 70.37%

  4. other (1 votes [3.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

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#21 User is offline   RSClyde 

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Posted 2013-August-31, 10:52

I think that when we have 9 hearts and the opponents aren't bidding, partner is likely to be on the more sound end of his bid and just accept my game try anyway, so I vote for just bidding 4♥ and keeping the opponents in the dark.
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Posted 2013-August-31, 11:56

View Postjallerton, on 2013-August-28, 16:53, said:

... Then I remind myself of what methods I am playing.

View Postnige1, on 2013-August-30, 21:05, said:

My initial reaction was that a 3♦ try, followed by 4♥ over 3♥, is more likely to lead to a daft slam than than an immediate 4♣ splinter. And yes, of course, I may be wrong (again).

View PostfromageGB, on 2013-August-31, 04:39, said:

Not with you here. I can't imagine bidding game after making a game try which is denied. Why do that? My choice is a game try (say 3♦) and pass 3♥ if that is partner's decision. Surely this is better than 4♣? (I would argue that it is better than 4♥, too.)
Fair enough. 3♦ intending to pass 3♥ does seem better than a 4♣ splinter. IMO, however, a jump to 4♥ is better than either. We're entitled to our opinions and, as jallerton points out, the right action may depend on partnership agreement. For example, some partnerships bid 1N first with non-constructive raises.
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Posted 2013-August-31, 12:59

I actually like splintering with the hand, you know, just in case partner's 2♥ raise is exactly AKx of hearts and Kx of diamonds, which he chose to down play to a simple raise... and diamonds are no worse than 4-3... and hearts are 2-2 or 3-1 with a stiff J... and a trump promotion is not forged by continually entering hand after a spade lead.
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Posted 2013-August-31, 13:17

View PostRSClyde, on 2013-August-31, 12:59, said:

I actually like splintering with the hand, you know, just in case partner's 2♥ raise is exactly AKx of hearts and Kx of diamonds, which he chose to down play to a simple raise... and diamonds are no worse than 4-3... and hearts are 2-2 or 3-1 with a stiff J... and a trump promotion is not forged by continually entering hand after a spade lead.

Heh :P Nice one.
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Posted 2013-August-31, 16:40

View PostRSClyde, on 2013-August-31, 12:59, said:

I actually like splintering with the hand, you know, just in case partner's 2♥ raise is exactly AKx of hearts and Kx of diamonds, which he chose to down play to a simple raise... and diamonds are no worse than 4-3... and hearts are 2-2 or 3-1 with a stiff J... and a trump promotion is not forged by continually entering hand after a spade lead.

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-August-31, 13:17, said:

Heh :P Nice one.
Well done! Luckily, partner held ♠ x x x x ♥ A x x x ♦ x ♣ A x x x :)
Seriously, HeartA, you told us partner had two aces but what was his hand and how many tricks did you male in 4♥?
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Posted 2013-September-01, 02:09

View PostHeartA, on 2013-August-28, 14:39, said:

You open 1♥ with ♠AK,♥Q109xxx,♦A10xx,♣x, partner raises to 2♥. How would you continue?

I would bid 3♥ Partner has shown 6-9 points and 3+ ♥ There are 4 possibilities Partner can hold 6-7-8 or 9 points.
3♥asks "How good are you? Bid game if you are maximum or pass if you are minimum." It makes sense to check and confirm.
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Posted 2013-September-01, 02:09

View PostHeartA, on 2013-August-28, 14:39, said:

You open 1♥ with ♠AK,♥Q109xxx,♦A10xx,♣x, partner raises to 2♥. How would you continue?

I would bid 3♥ Partner has shown 6-9 points and 3+ ♥ There are 4 possibilities Partner can hold 6-7-8 or 9 points.
3♥asks "How good are you? Bid game if you are maximum or pass if you are minimum." It makes sense to check and confirm.
Many a contract has foundered on the reefs of assumption(!) :)
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Posted 2013-September-01, 07:02

No brainer 4H all scoring. Sate of the match where you are behind do to previous insanities you MIGHT pass in the HOPE the other guy goes down in game, that is the excuse you can use for not bidding game. Nige, 4C is just a complete dream.
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Posted 2013-September-01, 07:21

View PostPhilG007, on 2013-September-01, 02:09, said:

I would bid 3♥ Partner has shown 6-9 points and 3+ ♥ There are 4 possibilities Partner can hold 6-7-8 or 9 points 3♥asks "How good are you? Bid game if you are maximum or pass if you are minimum." It makes sense to check and confirm. Many a contract has foundered on the reefs of assumption(!) :)
If you open 1♥ on most suitable "rule of 18" hands (as we do when playing a strong ♣), then a raise to 2♥ shows 6-10 HCP. IMO it is quite sensible to treat 1♥-2♥-3♥ as a game-try but some partnerships use it as a pre-emptive barrage.
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Posted 2013-September-01, 07:25

View Postmcphee, on 2013-September-01, 07:02, said:

Nige, 4C is just a complete dream.
OK :)
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Posted 2013-September-01, 08:03

View Postnige1, on 2013-August-28, 20:29, said:

Agree with Two4Bridge....

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Posted 2013-September-01, 08:12

View Postnige1, on 2013-August-28, 20:29, said:

Agree with Two4Bridge.

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Posted 2013-September-01, 16:15

:P 3♦. Wtp?
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Posted 2013-September-03, 13:34

pd got ♠Jxx,♥Axx,♦98x,♣Axxx. My LHO got stiff ♥K, and RHO got ♦KQ doubleton.

I played small ♥ toward dummy and made the marked finesse of ♥. I made 11 tricks. The other table played ♥Q toward dummy and made 10 tricks.
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