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#1 User is offline   Hanoi5 

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Posted 2012-July-08, 19:14

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Teams, all red, you dealt...

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2012-July-08, 19:44

With 2 bullets, the boss suit, and terrible spots, I'll start w/ 1.
A distant 2nd choice would be 3.
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Posted 2012-July-08, 20:31

1. Second choice is pass.
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Posted 2012-July-08, 21:02

agree 1s dont think much of any preempt here and
pass doesnt do much for me either with the 2 aces. It is
an easy hand to bid and rebid so go for it.
IMO 1s=10 p = 6 2/3/4s = 3
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Posted 2012-July-08, 21:58

Zero spades for me. My partners lose their sense of humor, but not their fondness for forcing to game on misfitting 12s, if I open too many hands like this.
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Posted 2012-July-08, 22:17

1 -- the shape and texture doesn't seem right for 3 and the 2 Aces are strike three..
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Posted 2012-July-08, 22:45

I'd open 1. Not sure what my 2nd choice is - either 2 or pass.
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Posted 2012-July-08, 23:15

I play intermediate two bids, so this decision is easy for me in my main partnership. In a standard partnership, I think I'd open 1 and keep bidding spades for a while. I don't particularly object to 3S 1st seat, and that would be my 2nd choice, though I think 1 is better.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 01:01

2 for me - no spots and too much Defense for 3, most people want a few more HCP for 1 (I wouldn't even attempt it unless 1 is limited), and partner will NEVER believe that I have this good a hand if I initially pass. Why are so many people saying Pass is an option, seriously???
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Posted 2012-July-09, 01:19

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Posted 2012-July-09, 01:33

The plan in the title sounds good to me, but OK I wouldn't bid spades a fourth time. Side question:
1S-1N
2S-3S (assuming 3-card limit raises would raise to 4S)
?

1S-1N
2S-2N
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I think I'd bid 4S over the first and 3S over the second, but maybe I should pass the first one?
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Posted 2012-July-09, 01:37

View Postgwnn, on 2012-July-09, 01:33, said:

I think I'd bid 4S over the first and 3S over the second, but maybe I should pass the first one?



View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-08, 19:14, said:

Teams, all red, you dealt...


You should make a game try imo. (bid and try to make it)
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Posted 2012-July-09, 01:38

You would also rebid 4S over 1N and 2N from partner?
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Posted 2012-July-09, 01:39

View Postgwnn, on 2012-July-09, 01:38, said:

You would also rebid 4S over 1N and 2N from partner?


Definetely.

EDIT: Sorry, no, not over 1NT and then 2 NT where pd can have stiff . I thought u are asking something different.

Basically i would do what you said you would before you questioned yourself.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 04:13

I'd open 3, it fits the description well enough.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 05:08

View Postdkham, on 2012-July-09, 04:13, said:

I'd open 3, it fits the description well enough.


With two aces? However did we have such a successful partnership...

I'd probably pass, second choice 1.

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Posted 2012-July-09, 05:19

View Postahydra, on 2012-July-09, 05:08, said:

With two aces? However did we have such a successful partnership...

I'd probably pass, second choice 1.

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Never preempt with two aces - although I once opened a weak two with three aces, I assume that's ok?
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Posted 2012-July-09, 08:17

I'd bid 1 with this hand.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 08:23

So, 1>>>Pass>>3>>>2>>>4?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2012-July-09, 08:31

View PostSiegmund, on 2012-July-08, 21:58, said:

Zero spades for me. My partners lose their sense of humor, but not their fondness for forcing to game on misfitting 12s, if I open too many hands like this.


I also absolutely cannot open 1 in my partnership, pard is super aggressive red at inps and heading for 3nt way too often on chunky 11's.

By agreement our 2 bids are more constructive than 3 here so I'll try that and cross my fingers. It's an uncomfortable hand for sure. I could miss game but that's more excusable than going for 800.
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