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One, two, three, four Show your hand once and for all98

#21 User is offline   aguahombre 

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Posted 2012-July-09, 08:36

View PostMrAce, on 2012-July-09, 01:19, said:

1♠

View Postgwnn, on 2012-July-09, 01:33, said:

The plan in the title sounds good to me, but OK I wouldn't bid spades a fourth time. Side question:
1S-1N
2S-3S (assuming 3-card limit raises would raise to 4S)
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1S-1N
2S-2N
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I think I'd bid 4S over the first and 3S over the second, but maybe I should pass the first one?

First quote=most eloquent. Second quote=good follow-ups...maybe we "should" pass 1S-1N-2S-3S, but we know we wouldn't.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 08:39

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-09, 08:23, said:

So, 1♠>>>Pass>>3♠>>>2♠>>>4♠?

No. If you switch around a few cards, it is not hard to make this hand into a 2♠ bid (AJxxxx instead) or a 3♠ bid (KJTxxxx instead) or a 4♠ bid (KJTxxxxx). But my choice is still clear. I don't think this is a contradiction. A pass is a bit further (at least to me). OK, make it Axxxxx of spades and KJ outside.

I don't expect to lose a lot of imps if I choose 2S or 3S. But that's also not what we should be talking about a clear choice. Say you give me a normal balanced 14 count. I would open it with 1C/1D, but would I expect to lose a lot of imps if I opened it with the other minor? If I opened it 1NT? Not really. Do I consider the decision choice? Also not.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 09:07

Opening 1♠ is no good, you make things easy for opponents and hard for your partner. How's he ever going to know you actually had a 3♠ opener? :)
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Posted 2012-July-09, 09:18

View Postdkham, on 2012-July-09, 09:07, said:

Opening 1♠ is no good, you make things easy for opponents and hard for your partner. How's he ever going to know you actually had a 3♠ opener? :)

Certainly glad you added the emoticon. For a second I thought you might mean some part of what you wrote.
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Posted 2012-July-09, 09:42

I really do favour a 3♠ opening here - I added the emoticon to show that the suggestion it's a clear-cut 3♠ opener is a joke.

Hanoi5 - can you tell us what you (or whoever had this hand) did at the table?
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Posted 2012-July-09, 15:02

My partner opened 4♠. I don't think it would have done much difference, but I said the hand was a 1 or 4 opening, too much for 3 or 2. Maybe with a different Vul I'd have been right.

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 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-July-11, 04:02

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-09, 15:02, said:

My partner opened 4♠. I don't think it would have done much difference, but I said the hand was a 1 or 4 opening, too much for 3 or 2. Maybe with a different Vul I'd have been right.

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Posted 2012-July-11, 04:29

If I've got all the cards arranged correctly, looks like 4♠ and 5♦ were both off one.
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Posted 2012-July-11, 06:03

South opened 4♠. I don't know why the diagram has North as dealer. In order to defeat 5♦ South has to return a club after winning the first trick with the ♠A and then return another club when in with the ♥A.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-July-11, 07:04

Else North (opener's partner) gets squeezed in hearts and clubs?
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