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TakeOut dobule or Penalty double ?
#1
Posted 2012-May-23, 02:09
N-E-S-W
pass-pass-1D(1C)-pass-1nt-2H-X(doble)
what is doble ? Takeout or Penalty?
pass-pass-1D(1C)-pass-1nt-2H-X(doble)
what is doble ? Takeout or Penalty?
#3
Posted 2012-May-23, 02:33
Takeout (but in some systems, 1C-p-1NT promises 4 clubs, in which case 1C-p-1N-2H; x is playable as penalty as well).
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#4
Posted 2012-May-23, 02:55
t/o. You need a bid for strong hands below GF strength. Say 16hcp with clubs, like:
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx or:
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx
So what do you bid with above mentioned hands ?
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx or:
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx
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but in some systems, 1C-p-1NT promises 4 clubs, in which case 1C-p-1N-2H; x is playable as penalty as well
So what do you bid with above mentioned hands ?
#5
Posted 2012-May-23, 02:57
bluecalm, on 2012-May-23, 02:55, said:
t/o. You need a bid for strong hands below GF strength. Say 16hcp with clubs, like:
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx or:
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx
So what do you bid with above mentioned hands ?
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx or:
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx
So what do you bid with above mentioned hands ?
3H or 3C or something. I'm not saying it works on all hands, just that it's playable (though I don't like it that much).
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#6
Posted 2012-May-23, 03:07
Thx for messange gwnn and blue calm
sorry my english no good.
take out is 4-3 try spade? 1nt hand is no have 4card major and no support Daimonds
1D hand is 4-1-4-4? if 4-1-4-4 3C is no good? 1nt hand have Clubs4+. and can balancing bid
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx S-H-C-D ? game invitation 4D no good?
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx S-H-C-D ? 3C no good?
sorry my english no good.
take out is 4-3 try spade? 1nt hand is no have 4card major and no support Daimonds
1D hand is 4-1-4-4? if 4-1-4-4 3C is no good? 1nt hand have Clubs4+. and can balancing bid
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx S-H-C-D ? game invitation 4D no good?
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx S-H-C-D ? 3C no good?
#7
Posted 2012-May-23, 03:10
This depends how old (or good) your partner is. If your partner is 80ish and has never learned anything since taking up the game as a teeanager then it is penalty; otherwise it is takeout.
(-: Zel :-)
#9
Posted 2012-May-23, 03:23
Zelandakh, on 2012-May-23, 03:10, said:
This depends how old (or good) your partner is. If your partner is 80ish and has never learned anything since taking up the game as a teeanager then it is penalty; otherwise it is takeout.
Thx for message Zelandakh
sorry my english no good.
If BBO play which is standard bid?
#10
Posted 2012-May-23, 03:38
Bridge hands are written on BBF and (almost?) every bridge media in S-H-D-C order (most expensive suit first). If I write Axx x AJx AJxxxx, it means I have 6 clubs and 1 heart.
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#11
Posted 2012-May-23, 04:44
try_bridge, on 2012-May-23, 03:23, said:
Thx for message Zelandakh
sorry my english no good.
If BBO play which is standard bid?
sorry my english no good.
If BBO play which is standard bid?
I forgot to say before: Welcome to the forums! Do not worry too much about your English - there are plenty of non-native speakers here. As long as you do not use "ergo" it will be fine . The standard meaning for this double should be takeout. What I was trying to say with my message is really that there are some, usually older, players who will say that any double after a NT bid is penalty but the vast majority have moved away from that. Playing with a random pick-up partner on BBO, you are always taking a bit of a chance making any call that is not 100% obvious though; sometimes even when it is 100% obvious too!
(-: Zel :-)
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