[try_bridge]

N-E-S-W
pass-pass-1D(1C)-pass-1nt-2H-X(doble)

what is doble ? Takeout or Penalty?

[try_bridge]

1D-pass-1nt-2H-double ?

[gwnn]

Takeout (but in some systems, 1C-p-1NT promises 4 clubs, in which case 1C-p-1N-2H; x is playable as penalty as well).

[bluecalm]

t/o. You need a bid for strong hands below GF strength. Say 16hcp with clubs, like:
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx or:
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx

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but in some systems, 1C-p-1NT promises 4 clubs, in which case 1C-p-1N-2H; x is playable as penalty as well

So what do you bid with above mentioned hands ?

[gwnn]

bluecalm, on 2012-May-23, 02:55, said:

t/o. You need a bid for strong hands below GF strength. Say 16hcp with clubs, like:
KQx x KQx AJ9xxx or:
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx



So what do you bid with above mentioned hands ?

3H or 3C or something. I'm not saying it works on all hands, just that it's playable (though I don't like it that much).

[try_bridge]

Thx for messange gwnn and blue calm
sorry my english no good.

take out is 4-3 try spade? 1nt hand is no have 4card major and no support Daimonds
1D hand is 4-1-4-4? if 4-1-4-4 3C is no good? 1nt hand have Clubs4+. and can balancing bid

KQx x KQx AJ9xxx S-H-C-D ? game invitation 4D no good?
Ax xx AQxx AQTxx S-H-C-D ? 3C no good?

[Zelandakh]

This depends how old (or good) your partner is. If your partner is 80ish and has never learned anything since taking up the game as a teeanager then it is penalty; otherwise it is takeout.

[try_bridge]

try_bridge, on 2012-May-23, 02:09, said:

N-E-S-W
pass-pass-1D(1C)-pass-1nt-2H-X(doble)

what is doble ? Takeout or Penalty?

test

[try_bridge]

Zelandakh, on 2012-May-23, 03:10, said:

This depends how old (or good) your partner is. If your partner is 80ish and has never learned anything since taking up the game as a teeanager then it is penalty; otherwise it is takeout.

Thx for message Zelandakh
sorry my english no good.

If BBO play which is standard bid?

[gwnn]

Bridge hands are written on BBF and (almost?) every bridge media in S-H-D-C order (most expensive suit first). If I write Axx x AJx AJxxxx, it means I have 6 clubs and 1 heart.

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[Zelandakh]

try_bridge, on 2012-May-23, 03:23, said:

Thx for message Zelandakh
sorry my english no good.

If BBO play which is standard bid?

I forgot to say before: Welcome to the forums! Do not worry too much about your English - there are plenty of non-native speakers here. As long as you do not use "ergo" it will be fine . The standard meaning for this double should be takeout. What I was trying to say with my message is really that there are some, usually older, players who will say that any double after a NT bid is penalty but the vast majority have moved away from that. Playing with a random pick-up partner on BBO, you are always taking a bit of a chance making any call that is not 100% obvious though; sometimes even when it is 100% obvious too!