They jump over you 1NT What is needed?
#1
Posted 2012-May-14, 21:02
There's another topic covering the question of whether to use a bid a transfer or texas, but what is the best use for the double? Would 3NT show or deny the stopper? can we 'just' compete at the three (or four?) level?
I use the same structure of the 4-level for this situations, so in theory I won't have a problem if they 'psych' but is this reason enough for that treatment?
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
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#2
Posted 2012-May-15, 07:14
1NT - (3♣) -
dbl = takeout
3♦ = GI+ with hearts
3♥ = GI+ with spades
3♠ = GF with diamonds
3NT = to play
4♣ = 5-5 majors
1NT - (3♦) -
dbl = takeout
3♥ = GI+ with spades
3♠ = GF with hearts
3NT = to play
4♣ = NAT forcing
4♦ = 5-5 majors
1NT - (3♥) -
dbl = 4+ spades
...3♠ = three spades
...3NT = two spades
...4m/4♥ = cue with four spades and good cards for slam
...4♠ = four spades without good cards for slam
3♠ = GF without four spades and without stopper
3NT = to play
4m = NAT forcing
1NT - (3♠) -
dbl = GF takeout
3NT = to play
4m = NAT forcing
4♥ = to play
#3
Posted 2012-May-15, 09:30
It is also different in that while with a low doubleton opener may reopen with a X after a 2 level overcall, he will not be doing that with a 3 level overcall.
#4
Posted 2012-May-15, 09:36
Hanoi5, on 2012-May-14, 21:02, said:
I don't think denying a stopper is much use. Is partner supposed to take out to 4 of a minor on no fit when he does not have solid stops? So for me 3NT and X are bid with similar hands, but depending on vulnerability.
When playing transfers, you can "just compete" by passing the response. For me, 1NT (3♦) 3♥ is ♠ weak or GF, not invitational.
#5
Posted 2012-May-19, 00:38
fromageGB, on 2012-May-15, 09:36, said:
3NT probably has a stopper or something in reserve. X is for penalty and may not have a stopper, or may not have quite the values for 3NT. And yes, vulnerability is a factor.
If you agree X for take-out at the 3 level you will want partner to reopen with X for take-out on any suitable hand, otherwise you give opps a free ride, but that has its own inherent risks, particularly when our side is vul.
#6
Posted 2012-May-21, 16:07
fromageGB, on 2012-May-15, 09:30, said:
It is also different in that while with a low doubleton opener may reopen with a X after a 2 level overcall, he will not be doing that with a 3 level overcall.
Have to agree. while the transfer sytem is good if its hard to penalize 3 level overcall its just a license to steal.
#7
Posted 2012-May-21, 17:59
Hanoi5, on 2012-May-14, 21:02, said:
There's another topic covering the question of whether to use a bid a transfer or texas, but what is the best use for the double? Would 3NT show or deny the stopper? can we 'just' compete at the three (or four?) level?
I use the same structure of the 4-level for this situations, so in theory I won't have a problem if they 'psych' but is this reason enough for that treatment?
What am I going to do? Look for my hand. Did I drop my cards under the table?
#8
Posted 2012-May-21, 18:43
the hog, on 2012-May-21, 17:59, said:
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