Dummys placement of played cards 2
#1
Posted 2020-March-10, 12:20
Is it enough to just slide card away from others
OR
as I believe should that card be placed on top of other played cards
in front of dummy.
Too often it is hard to tell which card has been played when dummy just moves the card from others esp if card
remains close to other cards.
Thank you
#2
Posted 2020-March-10, 15:19
dickiegera, on 2020-March-10, 12:20, said:
Is it enough to just slide card away from others
OR
as I believe should that card be placed on top of other played cards
in front of dummy.
I would say neither, in the sense that there should be no "other played cards" in front of dummy.
Law 65C says that the cards already played shall be arranged in an orderly overlapping row in the sequence played. No exception for dummy. It doesn't specify where that row should be for dummy, but both logic (based upon average age and eyesight) and normal practice (at least around here) say that it should be along the edge of the table, behind dummy's exposed cards.
Where declarer should place the card declarer called until the trick ends is less clear. Some hold or place it behind the dummy's exposed cards, some in front of the dummy's exposed cards (which I dislike as declarer, but if partner won't obey that is my problem). "Sliding the card away" doesn't sound like a legal play, although it would be sufficient if Declarer was playing the cards himself for some reason.
#3
Posted 2020-March-10, 19:59
ahydra
#4
Posted 2020-March-11, 08:56
So I think you just have to make it clear that the played card is separate from dummy's hand.
#5
Posted 2020-March-11, 16:09
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#6
Posted 2020-March-12, 01:26
dickiegera, on 2020-March-10, 12:20, said:
Is it enough to just slide card away from others
OR
as I believe should that card be placed on top of other played cards
in front of dummy.
I don't see any basis for that belief and it's not standard practice. It's harder to see and process a card if it's on top of other cards than if it's on the plain background of the table.
London UK
#7
Posted 2020-March-12, 01:47
If it turns out that a player goes into a tank, I either put the card on top of the quitted tricks or I put it between the cards that have not been played yet and the board. This simply depends on what the table looks like: where is room available? and where can players see my card? In addition, I will put the card horizontally. This saves space and contrasts clearly with the rest of the dummy.
Rik
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#8
Posted 2020-March-12, 03:34
Many people thrust the card to the centre of the table, in a potentially intimidating gesture which may also partially hide dummy's unplayed cards. I dislike this but can't see that it is disallowed in any way.
#10
Posted 2020-March-12, 17:10
My only problem with players who hold the card in their hand is that they frequently do so in such a way that I can't clearly see it. And then there's "as soon as four cards have been faced, all four cards need to disappear ASAP".
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#11
Posted 2020-March-13, 11:24
blackshoe, on 2020-March-12, 17:10, said:
In the sense that holding the card inclined might be interpreted as potentially indicating approval, even if one always does it ?
I only do it as dummy and do it consistently, just to make sure people can see the card clearly despite the position close to the edge of the table.
In part it's what I like dummy to do for me because I am short sighted.
#12
Posted 2020-March-13, 14:36
As for tv, screw it. You aren't missing anything. -- Ken Berg
I have come to realise it is futile to expect or hope a regular club game will be run in accordance with the laws. -- Jillybean
#13
Posted 2020-March-13, 15:20
blackshoe, on 2020-March-13, 14:36, said:
Got it, thanks
I went from memory and confused 74A2 with 74C2, mea culpa.
#14
Posted 2020-July-28, 11:10
blackshoe, on 2020-March-12, 17:10, said:
My biggest issue is defenders who combine flashing their card and quitting it in one motion so fast that it is more or less impossible to see the face with thrusting some cards out to the very middle of the table while staring intently at their partners for a few seconds. Coincidentally the latter cards always seem to convey very important signals...