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Rate This Pass Matchpoints

Poll: Rate This Pass (22 member(s) have cast votes)

How Would You Rate a Pass Here?

  1. Automatic (0 votes [0.00%])

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  2. Good (0 votes [0.00%])

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  3. Close but I would (0 votes [0.00%])

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  4. Close but I wouldn't (0 votes [0.00%])

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  5. Not Good (14 votes [63.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.64%

  6. Insane (6 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  7. Abstain (2 votes [9.09%] - View)

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#1 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2018-November-20, 15:17



in a weak MP field playing 2/1 short club, most of the field playing Acol, how would you rate a pass from south?

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Posted 2018-November-20, 16:07

I can't think of a legitimate reason to pass this hand, and I am pretty conservative about opening hands. A weak field makes pass slightly less horrible as ops will be able to created their own disasters given enough rope. Other than that, no excuse IMO.
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Posted 2018-November-20, 16:48

I wouldn't pass this hand at MPs and I generally make solid opening bids. The hand has 2 QTs with 7 seven losers and a very comfortable 2 rebid fairly certain to be available. So, in this case, there's little risk in opening the hand.

Change a low to a low making it an 8 loser hand and maybe you'd have a little more pause about opening it. And, if it were something like Kxx xxxx Ax KJxx passing might be the best option.
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Posted 2018-November-20, 17:09

Only with a total misfit will this hand play badly, but that can happen with any hand irrespective of the point count and hand shape. Trying to second guess partner's cards, or for that matter the opponent's at this juncture, is ludicrous. It's not the greatest 1 opener I admit, but it's totally insane not to open in this day and age. You have an easy rebid. K&R put it at 12.75. Enough said.
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Posted 2018-November-20, 18:35

p - p - p 1 is what you deserve if you play Drury (and shudder Bergen as well). I would change my vote from Not Good to Extremely Negligent/Borderline Insane depending on these agreements. You have a rebid if you open 1, you don't have a bid over a 4th seat 1 opener. Or an accurate bid over 1 by them - p - whatever by rho.

My partnership is allergic to bidding notrump with singletons so a 1 opener followed by 2 has a singleton somewhere 80+% of the time and partner can often tell where it is/may be.
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Posted 2018-November-20, 19:36

I voted Not Good, but passing is almost bad enough for me to have voted Insane. 2 QT in this 11 count and a stiff and a 6 card suit with no rebid issues. 1 on days that end in y.
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Posted 2018-November-21, 02:25

I voted "not good", but I think the wording of the answers is a little over the top. A lot depends upon partnership style (and system) and I know good players who would choose to pass (although not many these days). So my actual answer would be "not good in my partnerships".
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Posted 2018-November-21, 07:10

Hi,

Abstain.

It is certainly not mainstream, but if you do it, you can make it work.
I would not do it.

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Posted 2018-November-21, 07:35

I voted 'not good', which is exactly how I judge it - have seen (and done) worse.
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Posted 2018-November-21, 08:43

Reasons to open 1c
1. EVERY suit controlled in case partner has slam aspirations.
2. 1c a decent lead director in case opps win the bidding.
3. No rebid problem.
4. Way better (offensively) than most balanced 13 counts the universe opens.


Reasons to pass

1. Playing with a bot and they will mess up any bidding anyway.
2. Tired and passing is easier than thinking about bidding.
3. Can't get name in forums with 1c bid but maybe I can with pass.
4. This partner keeps asking me for games maybe pass will finally get them to stop.

hmmm 4 reasons for each action. Does that mean both are equally justifiable?
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