[virgosrock]

I am speechless. This second negative has been brought up so many times yet...... Must be the hoary "all in same boat"
oops! i was short 3 HCP. Shame on me. At least got a plus and a huge virtual minus.

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[johnu]

I don't see how North can bid over 4♠ when the bidding has showed a double negative hand. Who are you supposed the believe, the bidding or your actual hand?

[virgosrock]

johnu, on 2018-June-22, 09:43, said:

I don't see how North can bid over 4♠ when the bidding has showed a double negative hand. Who are you supposed the believe, the bidding or your actual hand?

you are right johnu. the bidding shows a second negative so how could it? btw, the MOST hilarious comment to date.

[Stephen Tu]

Weirdly, it will bid blkwood if you bid 3S like a normal person (I see no reason to force game opposite an actual bust hand), but not when you show stronger.

Yes the continuations need a lot of work. 3h/3d show 4+ suits when they should show 5. Don't know why it won't bid 2nt. Maybe it's playable for 3c to be clubs or 2nd neg, unsuited for 2c-3c. But should change description.

[virgosrock]

Stephen Tu, on 2018-June-22, 10:04, said:

Weirdly, it will bid blkwood if you bid 3S like a normal person (I see no reason to force game opposite an actual bust hand), but not when you show stronger.

Yes the continuations need a lot of work. 3h/3d show 4+ suits when they should show 5. Don't know why it won't bid 2nt. Maybe it's playable for 3c to be clubs or 2nd neg, unsuited for 2c-3c. But should change description.

Yes. I almost bid 3S and I should have perhaps but got swayed by the 7th spade and concern the moron could potentially pass 3S. However managed a plus and subscribed to the same boat litany.