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#1 User is offline   gwnn 

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Posted 2017-December-12, 06:57

Please don't make this 3NT promise so much (25-32). I think there was a cleanup of bidding game opposite a technically "0+" partner, but maybe this particular sequence escaped.

Yes gwnn should have checked the range before he bid it. Shame on gwnn.

edit: gwnn's double is terrible, gwnn is even more ashamed of himself. gwnn is the worst.


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Posted 2017-December-12, 07:28

View Postgwnn, on 2017-December-12, 06:57, said:

Please don't make this 3NT promise so much (25-32). I think there was a cleanup of bidding game opposite a technically "0+" partner, but maybe this particular sequence escaped.

Yes gwnn should have checked the range before he bid it. Shame on gwnn.




I think GIBBO is happy if you bid 3NT over 3D. the blurb if I remember is 16-22 or something.

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Posted 2017-December-12, 07:30

Bidding over preempts it is recommended you assume partner has some values, maybe 6-8. Yes, when partner has 0 your down, but if you don't partner isn't going to move on 6-7 and you miss game.
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Posted 2017-December-12, 08:44

View Poststeve2005, on 2017-December-12, 07:30, said:

Bidding over preempts it is recommended you assume partner has some values, maybe 6-8. Yes, when partner has 0 your down, but if you don't partner isn't going to move on 6-7 and you miss game.


exactly. I assume 7 HCP.

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Posted 2017-December-12, 09:10

View Postvirgosrock, on 2017-December-12, 08:44, said:

exactly. I assume 7 HCP.

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I assumed 7 HCP too. I doubled first because I felt like it (rightsiding, or finding hearts/spades, or ...).

If you assume 7 HCP, then double then 3NT should be something like 18-25 HCP.
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Posted 2017-December-12, 09:12

The one that has caught me more than once is opening 3NT third in hand, to show a hand that wants to play 3NT, only to find GIB opposite raises to 6NT with an unexceptional 7 or 8-count.
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Posted 2017-December-12, 10:30

View Postgordontd, on 2017-December-12, 09:12, said:

The one that has caught me more than once is opening 3NT third in hand, to show a hand that wants to play 3NT, only to find GIB opposite raises to 6NT with an unexceptional 7 or 8-count.

good idea to read blurbs. unless you are saying this is a feature that needs to be added.

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Posted 2017-December-12, 10:58

Actually, *not reading* the blurb and paying with your own score for your mistake is an excellent way of learning your lesson. :)
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Posted 2017-December-12, 11:08

View Postgwnn, on 2017-December-12, 10:58, said:

Actually, *not reading* the blurb and paying with your own score for your mistake is an excellent way of learning your lesson. :)


hahaha! finally someone with a sense of humor on this forum LOL

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Posted 2017-December-12, 11:19

View Postgwnn, on 2017-December-12, 10:58, said:

Actually, *not reading* the blurb and paying with your own score for your mistake is an excellent way of learning your lesson. :)

Except that I didn't learn! This idea of a 3NT opening showing a strong balanced hand is just so alien to me that even though I had seen it in a first/second hand opener, it never occurred to me that would be the meaning in third or fourth!
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Posted 2017-December-12, 12:46

View Postgordontd, on 2017-December-12, 11:19, said:

Except that I didn't learn! This idea of a 3NT opening showing a strong balanced hand is just so alien to me that even though I had seen it in a first/second hand opener, it never occurred to me that would be the meaning in third or fourth!

You are playing with an alien LOL

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