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The hands do not matter. A player removes the 1NT card just clear of the bidding box, but then realises that he has agreed to play a strong NT, not his usual weak NT, and he has a 14 count and he asks if he can change his bid. The TD is called and rules the bid is made, and that the request to change it is UI to his partner. His partner announces it as 15-17 and invites with a 9 count, a normal action opposite a strong NT. The player has AI (he knows that he has opened a strong NT on a 14-count), and UI from the announcement, as he knows his partner is inviting opposite a strong NT. He passes and game would have gone down. Do you adjust?
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A forget AI and UI
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Posted 2017-February-26, 08:08
I prefer to give the lawmakers credit for stating things for a reason - barmar
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Posted 2017-February-26, 09:17
No. Think screens. You've bid 1NT and you know you made a mistake. The tray comes back with a invite, but your hand is weaker than agreed, so there's no reasom to raise to game.
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Posted 2017-February-26, 09:29
There's no unexpected information in the announcement: he knew before it that their agreement is that 1NT is 15-17.
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Posted 2017-February-26, 10:19
No infraction, no adjustment.
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Posted 2017-February-28, 03:30
gordontd, on 2017-February-26, 09:29, said:
There's no unexpected information in the announcement: he knew before it that their agreement is that 1NT is 15-17.
Not only did he know this before the announcement, but he has convincing evidence that he knew this before the announcement, which is of practical importance.
Rik
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