cuebid after RKC
#1
Posted 2016-August-18, 11:15
1♥-2♣
3♣-3♥
4♥-4nt
5nt-6♣
the 6♣ bid is defined as a cuebid. That was a shame on this particular hand where I wanted to bid 6♣ which turned out to be the only making slam.
I suppose it is difficult to formulate a rule for when a non-trump-suit-bid after RKC is a proposal rather than some kind of grand slam try. But here clubs hand been raised .....
The alternative was to anticipate on this problem and just bid 6♣ after 3♣. But 4nt as RKC for clubs is impractical and besides I needed to know about the king of hearts.
#2
Posted 2016-August-18, 11:40
Person using KC is Captain.
Gib has no concept of Captaincy.
#3
Posted 2016-August-18, 17:24
helene_t, on 2016-August-18, 11:15, said:
1♥-2♣
3♣-3♥
4♥-4nt
5nt-6♣
the 6♣ bid is defined as a cuebid. That was a shame on this particular hand where I wanted to bid 6♣ which turned out to be the only making slam.
I suppose it is difficult to formulate a rule for when a non-trump-suit-bid after RKC is a proposal rather than some kind of grand slam try. But here clubs hand been raised .....
The alternative was to anticipate on this problem and just bid 6♣ after 3♣. But 4nt as RKC for clubs is impractical and besides I needed to know about the king of hearts.
So don't bid 3H and effectively set the contract suit as hearts because 2C can be a utilitarian bid showing just 3 clubs.
#4
Posted 2016-August-18, 17:29
cloa513, on 2016-August-18, 17:24, said:
I don't think that is the problem. 2♣ shows four clubs in the GIB system, btw.
#5
Posted 2016-August-19, 00:23
helene_t, on 2016-August-18, 11:15, said:
1♥-2♣
3♣-3♥
4♥-4nt
5nt-6♣
the 6♣ bid is defined as a cuebid. That was a shame on this particular hand where I wanted to bid 6♣ which turned out to be the only making slam.
I suppose it is difficult to formulate a rule for when a non-trump-suit-bid after RKC is a proposal rather than some kind of grand slam try. But here clubs hand been raised .....
The alternative was to anticipate on this problem and just bid 6♣ after 3♣. But 4nt as RKC for clubs is impractical and besides I needed to know about the king of hearts.
5NT was showing 5 keycards? Or a void?
#6
Posted 2016-August-19, 12:54
helene_t, on 2016-August-18, 17:29, said:
If the descriptions show that, and also show that 1S-2H shows 5, I wonder what you are supposed to do with a 3433 hand, too strong the immediate 3NT response. I see no option but 2C.
#7
Posted 2016-August-19, 19:58
Stefan_O, on 2016-August-19, 00:23, said:
Second question
iandayre, on 2016-August-19, 12:54, said:
helene_t, on 2016-August-18, 17:29, said:
If the descriptions show that, and also show that 1S-2H shows 5, I wonder what you are supposed to do with a 3433 hand, too strong the immediate 3NT response. I see no option but 2C.
I didn't originally intend to reply, but I don't understand why both of you as expert would ask such a simple question on Helene_t's thread.
First question :
It is a void with even number of keycards, whatelse?
Second question
What Helene_t said is correct.
On Gib CC, responding 2♣ = Forcing two over one --- 13+hcp,biddable ♣, 14+TPs,forcing to 3N.
See " Understanding Gib Bid Descriptions " :
biddable : 5+ cards, or 4 cards + 3 of 5 honors or more than 4 8421 points