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Jec jan23 - bd 1
#2
Posted 2016-January-23, 17:22
I blame south....south has an easy pass not 2D which should promise more much much more.
#4
Posted 2016-January-23, 20:58
I'm voting 50/50. I don't like 2D, but I don't like 4S either. This seems like just about the worst time to try for a 5-2 fit game. I would double 3C as North. It might still end up being bad, but if it does, then I blame south for the 2D bid.
Wayne Somerville
#5
Posted 2016-January-23, 22:54
A vote by the likes of Jallerton, LMilne, JLall, etc is probably more significant than other votes. Anonymous polls remove that useful information. IMO:
Hence, it's mainly North's fault.
- South's 1♠ and 2♦ are pushy but OK in an aggressive style.
- Over West's 3♣, North might double. Even 3♠ would be an overbid.
Hence, it's mainly North's fault.
#7
Posted 2016-January-24, 05:48
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
#8
Posted 2016-January-24, 06:47
north 82%. there is a bid available to show points but no primary fit. that bid is double. 4 spades on a 5-2 fit with the long hand getting forced is bound to play badly.
#10
Posted 2016-January-24, 18:21
I don't know it depends on your standards for taking a free bid opposite a passed hand especially if this is imps.
Sarcasm is a state of mind
#12
Posted 2016-January-24, 21:21
mike777, on 2016-January-24, 20:16, said:
wow many posters seem to feel 2d did not show a hand with extras.
At matchpoints NV with a lot of partners sure that would be true.
but with at least one partner I'm gonna be pushing for game, sure a 5-2 is ill-advised, but with this partner I've missed game too many times not to make some attempt with 10 points. I'm at least bidding 4♦.
Sarcasm is a state of mind
#13
Posted 2016-January-24, 22:26
steve2005, on 2016-January-24, 21:21, said:
At matchpoints NV with a lot of partners sure that would be true.
but with at least one partner I'm gonna be pushing for game, sure a 5-2 is ill-advised, but with this partner I've missed game too many times not to make some attempt with 10 points. I'm at least bidding 4♦.
but with at least one partner I'm gonna be pushing for game, sure a 5-2 is ill-advised, but with this partner I've missed game too many times not to make some attempt with 10 points. I'm at least bidding 4♦.
ty steve for your very honest response.
I played 2d for a hand with extras....only 5s was the least of my worries that many posters sight
see my first post in this thread
#14
Posted 2016-January-24, 22:33
I just think 2d is so bad so misleading....it gives me hope that many of you posters think 2d is not horrible and misleading
#15
Posted 2016-January-24, 22:38
AKQxxx...xx...KQJx...x
or closer
the problem is you guys think south can bid ...free bid 2d on crap rather than extras...true extra
north is a passed hand
or closer
the problem is you guys think south can bid ...free bid 2d on crap rather than extras...true extra
north is a passed hand
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