Does anyone know of an article or documentation on how to play negative doubles after the opponents overcall our strong 1NT opening at the 2-level?
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Negative Doubles of Overcalls of Strong 1NT Opening
#2
Posted 2013-September-08, 14:06
Don't think I have come across the idea. You mean a takeout X when you have a 2 count 1444 with singleton in their suit? I can't see why you would want to take it out to a poor fit possibly at the 3 level. Maybe there are better uses for a X.
#3
Posted 2013-September-08, 14:14
fromageGB, on 2013-September-08, 14:06, said:
Don't think I have come across the idea. You mean a takeout X when you have a 2 count 1444 with singleton in their suit? I can't see why you would want to take it out to a poor fit possibly at the 3 level. Maybe there are better uses for a X.
Yeah. Takeout with, say a 1444 5 count, but no matter - opinions are not needed here - only links.
#4
Posted 2013-September-08, 16:19
Don't know of any articles but we play them with the agreement that it promises the 5-7 pt range with an Ace or King at the lower end in case pard owns a pass. They do make some but not often.
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#5
Posted 2013-September-08, 16:31
magnum45, on 2013-September-07, 21:20, said:
Does anyone know of an article or documentation on how to play negative doubles after the opponents overcall our strong 1NT opening at the 2-level?
Just try it. It will quickly feel like a normal bridge auction, much more normal than penalty doubles on the same auction.
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#6
Posted 2013-September-09, 15:20
It is a book, not an article, but Steve Robinson's Washington Standard has a table of third seat actions over an overcall of a strong NT. These include Negative Doubles in some cases.
A problem, of course, is that m,any overcalls are not natural.
I will give you a flavor of what is there:
1NT-(2♣)-X, where 2♣ is natural, DONT, or Capp, is Stayman
1NT-2♦-X, where 2♦ is natural or DONT, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X, where 2♥ is natural, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X where 2♥ shows both majors, the double is penalties.
There is much more. The book is not too pricey and I doubt that Steve did it for the money, but still I would be a little shy about reprinting the entire table w/o permission.
Mostly I would say the table is useful on the grounds that it makes a choice. Far too often we just wing it, hoping to be understood.
A problem, of course, is that m,any overcalls are not natural.
I will give you a flavor of what is there:
1NT-(2♣)-X, where 2♣ is natural, DONT, or Capp, is Stayman
1NT-2♦-X, where 2♦ is natural or DONT, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X, where 2♥ is natural, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X where 2♥ shows both majors, the double is penalties.
There is much more. The book is not too pricey and I doubt that Steve did it for the money, but still I would be a little shy about reprinting the entire table w/o permission.
Mostly I would say the table is useful on the grounds that it makes a choice. Far too often we just wing it, hoping to be understood.
Ken
#7
Posted 2013-September-10, 20:46
kenberg, on 2013-September-09, 15:20, said:
It is a book, not an article, but Steve Robinson's Washington Standard has a table of third seat actions over an overcall of a strong NT. These include Negative Doubles in some cases.
A problem, of course, is that m,any overcalls are not natural.
I will give you a flavor of what is there:
1NT-(2♣)-X, where 2♣ is natural, DONT, or Capp, is Stayman
1NT-2♦-X, where 2♦ is natural or DONT, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X, where 2♥ is natural, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X where 2♥ shows both majors, the double is penalties.
There is much more. The book is not too pricey and I doubt that Steve did it for the money, but still I would be a little shy about reprinting the entire table w/o permission.
Mostly I would say the table is useful on the grounds that it makes a choice. Far too often we just wing it, hoping to be understood.
A problem, of course, is that m,any overcalls are not natural.
I will give you a flavor of what is there:
1NT-(2♣)-X, where 2♣ is natural, DONT, or Capp, is Stayman
1NT-2♦-X, where 2♦ is natural or DONT, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X, where 2♥ is natural, the double is negative
1NT-(2♥)-X where 2♥ shows both majors, the double is penalties.
There is much more. The book is not too pricey and I doubt that Steve did it for the money, but still I would be a little shy about reprinting the entire table w/o permission.
Mostly I would say the table is useful on the grounds that it makes a choice. Far too often we just wing it, hoping to be understood.
Thanks. That's helpful.
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