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#1 User is offline   Hilver 

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Posted 2013-January-18, 09:39

Teams
N/ NS vulnerable

North:
A 10 7 5 2
A K 8 3
K Q 8
3

South:
Q 8 6 3 4
Q 4 2
7 6 2
J 4

The bidding:
West North East South
- 1* 2 pass
3 dbl pass 4all pass

1 = Big Club, 16+
2 and 3C are natural

The first trick:
West North East South
2 6 K 4

East returns the 7 of hearts.

What will be your line of play?
(Edit: small lead is positive, an honnour)

Thx

Jan

This post has been edited by Hilver: 2013-January-19, 04:47

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Posted 2013-January-18, 10:07

14 cards opposite 12.

edit: OP has since been fixed.

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Posted 2013-January-18, 16:04

View Postbillw55, on 2013-January-18, 10:07, said:

14 cards opposite 12.


Thanks for Your remark.
I edited my posting

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Posted 2013-January-19, 04:14

It would be helpful to know what leads they play.

There is a chance of an elimination if RHO has Kx and Ax, or any hand with a singleton ace of diamonds. Win K and play A.

If trumps break but the king doesn't fall, play a heart to the queen, ruff a club, and play A. If they don't break, ruff the last heart in hand and exit with a spade. That works when RHO is something like 2227 - the best he can do is exit with a low diamond, but we cross in trumps and lead a diamond to dummy's remaining honour.

If spades are 0=3, play a second spade, win the return, draw the last trump, ruff a club, and cash the top hearts ending in hand. Then play a diamond. That works when RHO is 1=2, 2=1 or 2=2 in the red suits. Note that we can't afford to ruff the fourth heart immediately, because we will run out of trumps and go down when A is onside.

I can't see a way to cater for East's 3415, but it seems unlikely on the bidding anyway.


Edit: This fails when their shapes are 2164=1516 - LHO ruffs the second heart and plays a diamond to the king and ace, then RHO exits with a club. Against that layout, I have to win the first heart in hand and ruff a club immediately. Maybe I should ask about their leads and defence to 1.

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... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-January-19, 04:49

View Postgnasher, on 2013-January-19, 04:14, said:

It would be helpful to know what leads they play.



The lead of tthe deuce of clubs indicates an honnour.

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Posted 2013-January-19, 06:09

View PostHilver, on 2013-January-19, 04:49, said:

The lead of tthe deuce of clubs indicates an honnour.

Jan


So he can have Hxx, Hxxx or Hxxxx ?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-January-19, 10:25

View Postgnasher, on 2013-January-19, 06:09, said:

So he can have Hxx, Hxxx or Hxxxx ?


No, East did already win the first trick by playing the King of clubs.
West playing the K indicates West holding the Queen of clubs.

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Posted 2013-January-19, 13:26

View PostHilver, on 2013-January-19, 10:25, said:

No, East did already win the first trick by playing the King of clubs.
West playing the K indicates West holding the Queen of clubs.

Jan

I think we're having language difficulties. By "H" I meant "honour".

What I want to know is, can West have any of 3, 4, or 5 cards?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-January-20, 04:43

View Postgnasher, on 2013-January-19, 13:26, said:

I think we're having language difficulties. By "H" I meant "honour".

What I want to know is, can West have any of 3, 4, or 5 cards?


Yes, he can.

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