[Zelandakh]

A possibility based on one of Ken's after the auction (1♠) - P - (2♠) [or (1♥!) - P - (2♠)]:-

X = minors or 3-suited (2NT advance shows hearts)
2NT = clubs, or diamonds, or hearts and competitive (paradox advances)
3m = hearts and the minor
3♥ = hearts and invitational

[32519]

Zelandakh, on 2012-September-24, 06:22, said:

A possibility based on one of Ken's after the auction (1♠) - P - (2♠) [or (1♥!) - P - (2♠)]:-

X = minors or 3-suited (2NT advance shows hearts)
2NT = clubs, or diamonds, or hearts and competitive (paradox advances)
3m = hearts and the minor
3♥ = hearts and invitational

Zel, I’m trying to make sense of this post of yours.

This is how I understand it –
1♥ (promising ♠, or a 1♠ direct opening)-P-2♠-?
1. X = both minors, or a 3-suited takeout
...a. Partner with ♥, shows this by bidding 2NT
...b. Without ♥, partner bids his better minor
2. 2NT = any competitive single-suited ♣/♦/♥ hand
...a. Partner will now need to bid 3♣ as pass/correct
3. 3m = ♥ plus the minor bid (easy enough)
4. 3♥ = ♥ and an invitational hand (easy enough) [Do I assume at least a 6-card ♥ suit here?]

Is my understanding here correct?

[Zelandakh]

32519, on 2012-September-24, 08:05, said:

Zel, I’m trying to make sense of this post of yours.

This is how I understand it –
1♥ (promising ♠, or a 1♠ direct opening)-P-2♠-?
1. X = both minors, or a 3-suited takeout
...a. Partner with ♥, shows this by bidding 2NT
...b. Without ♥, partner bids his better minor
2. 2NT = any competitive single-suited ♣/♦/♥ hand
...a. Partner will now need to bid 3♣ as pass/correct
3. 3m = ♥ plus the minor bid (easy enough)
4. 3♥ = ♥ and an invitational hand (easy enough) [Do I assume at least a 6-card ♥ suit here?]

Is my understanding here correct?

Yes, except that a hand that would raise clubs can respond 3♦ over 2NT and a hand that would raise both minors can respond 3♥. Over the double, Advancer just bids as if it was a normal takeout double but chooses 2NT if they would have bid hearts to give Doubler the chance to show both minors. The 3♥ overcall is the same as a normal 3♥ overcall but having 2 different routes allows you to differentiate between stronger and weaker hands and thus catch more of the games they may be preempting you out of.

[32519]

Here is another defensive possibility for the player sitting in 4th seat. This hand was spat out by BBOs deal generator just moments ago.

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So the bidding goes –
1♥ (promising 4+ ♠)
Pass
2♠ (the North hand again qualifying for the 3-5 HCP response containing 4-card trump support)
3♠ (Running minor suit with a guaranteed outside entry, asking for a ♠ stopper to play in 3NT. Without a ♠ stopper, West will bid 4♣ as pass/correct)

[32519]

Reverse the West and East ♠ holdings in the above hand and East can bid 3NT directly over North's 2♠ bid.

[hrothgar]

32519, on 2012-September-25, 10:04, said:

Here is another defensive possibility for the player sitting in 4th seat. This hand was spat out by BBOs deal generator just moments ago.

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So the bidding goes –
1♥ (promising 4+ ♠)
Pass
2♠ (the North hand again qualifying for the 3-5 HCP response containing 4-card trump support)
3♠ (Running minor suit with a guaranteed outside entry, asking for a ♠ stopper to play in 3NT. Without a ♠ stopper, West will bid 4♣ as pass/correct)

Let's see how many things you got wrong this time around...

1. I'd probably open 1N rather than 1♠

2. Raising to 2♠ with 3-5 HCP and 4 card support is an aberration. I can't recall doing so more than a handful of times and certainly wouldn't do so with the hand in question.

3. Doubling 3♠ is nonsensical. RHO has advertized a long running. If LHO has a spade stopper, it has to be the Ace. Why precisely am I doubling Spades? If anything, I want partner leading his heart suit.

[the hog]

I don't know why you bother Richard. Do you know the saying "Never wrestle with a pig. The pig enjoys it and you only get dirty"?

[32519]

the hog, on 2012-September-28, 19:58, said:

I don't know why you bother Richard. Do you know the saying "Never wrestle with a pig. The pig enjoys it and you only get dirty"?

Does a one-legged duck swim in circles?

[Free]

32519, on 2012-September-29, 00:26, said:

Does a one-legged duck swim in circles?

No, it gets eaten...

[32519]

hrothgar, on 2012-September-28, 06:39, said:

3. Doubling 3♠ is nonsensical. RHO has advertized a long running. If LHO has a spade stopper, it has to be the Ace. Why precisely am I doubling Spades? If anything, I want partner leading his heart suit.

West has enough ♥ to hold up the Queen long enough to stop the opponents from running the suit.

[hrothgar]

32519, on 2012-October-03, 00:11, said:

West has enough ♥ to hold up the Queen long enough to stop the opponents from running the suit.

Damn, you are genuinely stupid.

How precisely does South know this when he is doubling?