Is this a splinter? Or is it stronger?
#1
Posted 2012-July-14, 11:30
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#2
Posted 2012-July-14, 13:00
#3
Posted 2012-July-14, 13:10
(Too much for a preemptive raise to 4♥, and too little HCP for std. splinter).
Andrew Gumpez published a nice piece: http://bridgewinners...ith-a-splinter/
Two tier splinters split the range as follows:
9-11 Working Points make a hidden splinter (3 of the other Major - partner asks shortness only if hoding sufficient strength to warrant divulging the information).
12-14 Working Points make a direct splinter:
1♥-3N(Showing short ♠s), 4♣, 4♦
1♠ - 4♣, 4♦, 4♥
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#4
Posted 2012-July-14, 13:42
SteveMoe, on 2012-July-14, 13:10, said:
(Too much for a preemptive raise to 4♥, and too little HCP for std. splinter).
Andrew Gumpez published a nice piece: http://bridgewinners...ith-a-splinter/
Two tier splinters split the range as follows:
9-11 Working Points make a hidden splinter (3 of the other Major - partner asks shortness only if hoding sufficient strength to warrant divulging the information).
12-14 Working Points make a direct splinter:
1♥-3N(Showing short ♠s), 4♣, 4♦
1♠ - 4♣, 4♦, 4♥
Yeah - another way to show that is an under-jump shift, so a jump to 3 diamonds says "I have 9-11 points, at least four hearts, and a singleton or void somewhere. Opener can inquire about the void by making the cheapest call (returning to the major) and responder can either bid a suit directly which shows a singleton, or make the next cheapest call which shows a void which opener relays to allow responder to show.
As always, what bidding 4 of the major after the splinter inquiry, or 3NT means depends on partner agreement (which is another way of saying it's arbitrary). But this is the system I use, along with the stronger, game forcing splinter (they're both game forcing, but this one shows more points) by making an over-jump-shift.
#5
Posted 2012-July-14, 14:18
#6
Posted 2012-July-14, 14:39
That said, if I'm sitting down across from a partner I don't know, I'm going to make the 4d jump, since I don't know what system he plays - even if he uses Bergen raises, I've gotten into a lot of trouble by assuming my partner played the "opposite-major-shows a splinter somewhere" part of the system: we wound up playing in a 3 card trump.
#8
Posted 2012-July-14, 19:16
#9
Posted 2012-July-15, 01:11
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#10
Posted 2012-July-16, 06:13
Note also that some 2NT structures can handle these kinds of hands quite well. Opener can show a shortage (clubs sounds good) or Responder can rebid a shortage. This is not the kind of structure I prefer though so it would not be an option for me.
#11
Posted 2012-July-16, 06:43
stop short of slam if p bids 4h over our 4d.
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Kx
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Kx
are both minimum type hands where slam is practically a lay down
and p will not want to venture beyond 4h due to the "wasted" dia K.
The presence of a side 5 card suit (spades) takes away some of the
accuracy of splinter bids. I prefer to chase monarchs here and I will
start the proceeding with my response of
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#12
Posted 2012-July-16, 07:05
#13
Posted 2012-July-18, 06:29
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