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mistake in Reese on play ? Chapter 7 safety plays card combo J2--AQ8754
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Posted 2012-July-06, 20:15
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2012-July-06, 20:36
Lead J toward length, intending to finesse. Win if covered, then small to 7/8. 5 tricks 79.1% of time. Win 6 some 3.4% of the time. Gives up 2 to to K109xx on side and 3 to 0 - 5 offside. Gives up 2 to all x - xxxx.
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Posted 2012-July-06, 21:09
The jack is right because it picks up KT9x and KTxx/K9xx onside, losing to stiff king in either hand.
I assume the mistake is that it is recommended to cash the ace, which would be correct if it was AQ5432 opp J6
I assume the mistake is that it is recommended to cash the ace, which would be correct if it was AQ5432 opp J6
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Posted 2012-July-07, 01:34
An interesting combination I had never thought about before. Messing around with Suitplay confirms that this suit is handled differently with the 8 and 7, with only the 8, and without the 8.
I routinely think of 8s as "x"es and expect them to make no difference to how I play a suit, except for sometimes giving me a bonus trick when a singleton 9 or T falls. But there seem to be a lot of combinations where it matters. Anything that gets me out of that complacency is a good thing. Just tonight on BBO I saw Qxx opposite T97xx, where the right play is different from Qxx opposite T9xxx.
I routinely think of 8s as "x"es and expect them to make no difference to how I play a suit, except for sometimes giving me a bonus trick when a singleton 9 or T falls. But there seem to be a lot of combinations where it matters. Anything that gets me out of that complacency is a good thing. Just tonight on BBO I saw Qxx opposite T97xx, where the right play is different from Qxx opposite T9xxx.
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Posted 2012-July-07, 03:35
Siegmund, on 2012-July-07, 01:34, said:
An interesting combination I had never thought about before. Messing around with Suitplay confirms that this suit is handled differently with the 8 and 7, with only the 8, and without the 8.
I routinely think of 8s as "x"es and expect them to make no difference to how I play a suit, except for sometimes giving me a bonus trick when a singleton 9 or T falls. But there seem to be a lot of combinations where it matters. Anything that gets me out of that complacency is a good thing. Just tonight on BBO I saw Qxx opposite T97xx, where the right play is different from Qxx opposite T9xxx.
I routinely think of 8s as "x"es and expect them to make no difference to how I play a suit, except for sometimes giving me a bonus trick when a singleton 9 or T falls. But there seem to be a lot of combinations where it matters. Anything that gets me out of that complacency is a good thing. Just tonight on BBO I saw Qxx opposite T97xx, where the right play is different from Qxx opposite T9xxx.
One I posted in another thread:
A1076xx
K8
For 1 loser, the 6 is significant here.
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Posted 2012-July-07, 03:54
benlessard, on 2012-July-06, 20:15, said:
AQ8754
J2
play for 1 loser
J2
play for 1 loser
I do not get it.
I have the second edition of Reese on Play (1978) and it gives
AQ8xx opposite Jxxx (low to the queen for 5 tricks, lead the jack for 4 tricks)
AQxxxx opposite Jx (ace first)
A9xxxx opposite Jx (low to the jack)
I can not find your combination at all.
Where is the mistake?
By the way, I am aware of many mistakes in Reese books. It is still one of my favorite authors.
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Posted 2012-July-07, 04:08
I have found a first edition called "Master Play In Contract Bridge" from 1960 in my library.
This mistake has been corrected by Terence himself in the second edition.
Rainer Herrmann
This mistake has been corrected by Terence himself in the second edition.
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Posted 2012-July-07, 09:25
Cyberyeti, on 2012-July-07, 03:35, said:
One I posted in another thread:
A1076xx
K8
For 1 loser, the 6 is significant here.
A1076xx
K8
For 1 loser, the 6 is significant here.
Is this the one where you lead the T to pick up stiff 9 on either side (overtaking if 9 appears on your right) as well as stiff Q or J on your right? And RHO grosvenors you by playing the 9 from QJ9x under the T then laughs at you?
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Posted 2012-July-07, 09:33
The book I have is Reese on Play, Better Bridge Now.
Chess & Bridge edition 2001 reprinted in 2006
Like Justin said he suggest bagging the A to pick up stiff K on both side.
Like most people found the correct answer is running the J first followed by low to 9/8 (if JKA on round 1).
If you believe that LHO is 2 times more likely to be stiff than East leading low to Q & planning to run the J (if the Q win and a stiff 9/T fall) also make sense, it win against
Ktxx---9
K9xx---T
K------xxxx
but lose against
KT9x----x
since
K---xxxx is one case and
KT9x--x is 2 cases
14 must have twice the odds of a 41 break for playing low to Q to make sense.
Chess & Bridge edition 2001 reprinted in 2006
Like Justin said he suggest bagging the A to pick up stiff K on both side.
Like most people found the correct answer is running the J first followed by low to 9/8 (if JKA on round 1).
If you believe that LHO is 2 times more likely to be stiff than East leading low to Q & planning to run the J (if the Q win and a stiff 9/T fall) also make sense, it win against
Ktxx---9
K9xx---T
K------xxxx
but lose against
KT9x----x
since
K---xxxx is one case and
KT9x--x is 2 cases
14 must have twice the odds of a 41 break for playing low to Q to make sense.
From Psych "I mean, Gus and I never see eye-to-eye on work stuff.
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
For instance, he doesn't like being used as a human shield when we're being shot at.
I happen to think it's a very noble way to meet one's maker, especially for a guy like him.
Bottom line is we never let that difference of opinion interfere with anything."
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Posted 2012-July-07, 14:25
lalldonn, on 2012-July-07, 09:25, said:
Is this the one where you lead the T to pick up stiff 9 on either side (overtaking if 9 appears on your right) as well as stiff Q or J on your right? And RHO grosvenors you by playing the 9 from QJ9x under the T then laughs at you?
If he breaks tempo by a fraction I'm going to be the one laughing, but yes it is.
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