In an 2/1 auction how to open and rebid with these hands? Which one is better? 1♥or 1♦?
Hand A
♠ 7
♥ 109862
♦ AKQ1085
♣ A
Hand B
♠ 7
♥ AQJ86
♦ AQ10862
♣ 3
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How to show 5-6 pattern in an 2/1 auction? When you are dealt lacking the value to reverse
#2
Posted 2012-May-20, 18:25
I would open 1♦ and reverse on both of those examples. If the hand was weaker, e.g. x AJxxx AQxxxx x then I would open 1♥. I might open 1♦ with really bad hearts, intending to just rebid diamonds and give up on a 5-3 heart fit, e.g. A xxxxx AKxxxx x. But even with a heart suit like 1098xx I would consider opening 1♥.
#3
Posted 2012-May-21, 02:45
Hi,
and old question.
#1 I would start with 1H, selling the hand as 55, this even with the Ace of clubs being the Ace of hearts
#2 I would start with 1D, making the reverse
Simple rule - If you dont want to make the reverse, start with the higher ranking suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
and old question.
#1 I would start with 1H, selling the hand as 55, this even with the Ace of clubs being the Ace of hearts
#2 I would start with 1D, making the reverse
Simple rule - If you dont want to make the reverse, start with the higher ranking suit.
With kind regards
Marlowe
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
#4
Posted 2012-May-21, 18:51
P_Marlowe, on 2012-May-21, 02:45, said:
#1 I would start with 1H, selling the hand as 55, this even with the Ace of clubs being the Ace of hearts
Yuk, that's an awful ♥ suit to start with 1♥. The ♣A is not the ♥A and neither has the same value for the bid. And such a powerful hand too.
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#6
Posted 2012-May-22, 08:43
Take a hand like x AJxxx AJxxxx x.
For me, it depends on three things: a) relative suit quality, b) strength of hand and c) how close the suits are together.
If I choose not to reverse, I can treat my six card minor as five and open the major, or, I can ignore my five card major and open and rebid my six card minor.
On my example above, I would open this 1♥. Change it to x Qxxxx AKJxxx x and I would open it 1♦ and rebid 2♦. Add a King and I would reverse. However, if you give me the black suits, then I open 1♣ in all cases.
Where it gets close is when we have the round (♥ + ♣) or pointed (♠ + ♦) suits together.
For me, it depends on three things: a) relative suit quality, b) strength of hand and c) how close the suits are together.
If I choose not to reverse, I can treat my six card minor as five and open the major, or, I can ignore my five card major and open and rebid my six card minor.
On my example above, I would open this 1♥. Change it to x Qxxxx AKJxxx x and I would open it 1♦ and rebid 2♦. Add a King and I would reverse. However, if you give me the black suits, then I open 1♣ in all cases.
Where it gets close is when we have the round (♥ + ♣) or pointed (♠ + ♦) suits together.
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#7
Posted 2012-May-22, 10:09
Of course, there is also the option to pass a 5-6 ten count. Often you can describe such a hand better by passing and backing in with a two-suited call later than by opening and distorting shape. With the 13s given I will open 1d and reverse.
Adam W. Meyerson
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#8
Posted 2012-May-22, 10:33
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With the 13s given I will open 1d and reverse.
I am interested in your view on hand in the middle. say 11-12-13hcp and 5M-6m.
I am coming from bridge culture where everybody always open 1M if they have 5 card major but I noticed that most elite players just open longer suit most of the time in good 13+ range.
What do you think about those middle hands ? Say:
x KQxxx AQxxxx x
- AJTxx AQxxxx xx
x AQxxx KQJxxx x
#9
Posted 2012-May-22, 18:40
I dont think this particularly pertains to 2/1, lots of problems arise when partner answers something much less encouraging than a gf 2/1.....lets say 1NT.
I agree with awm that opening these hands with 9-10 counts is not necessarily a good thing. For intermediate hands my rule of thumb is that if I cant reverse I start with the higher suit and show 5-5+ (not showing one card looks to me a lesser evil than potentially hiding a 5 card major). If I can reverse than I dont need to distort the shape and can open the longer suit, however I dont reverse into poor quality suits.
So imo
Hand A - 1♥ planning to rebid 2♦ over partners 1♠ or 1NT,
Hand B - 1♦ planning to reverse.
Yu
I agree with awm that opening these hands with 9-10 counts is not necessarily a good thing. For intermediate hands my rule of thumb is that if I cant reverse I start with the higher suit and show 5-5+ (not showing one card looks to me a lesser evil than potentially hiding a 5 card major). If I can reverse than I dont need to distort the shape and can open the longer suit, however I dont reverse into poor quality suits.
So imo
Hand A - 1♥ planning to rebid 2♦ over partners 1♠ or 1NT,
Hand B - 1♦ planning to reverse.
Yu
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