daveharty, on 2012-April-16, 13:49, said:
The proper play in the diamond suit is undoubtedly a worthy topic of discussion...in another venue. As I'm sure you know from looking at the full hand, whether you win the first or the second diamond trick makes zero difference with regard to the main theme of the hand (or what I THOUGHT was the main theme at any rate): the advisability of stripping the hand and forcing the defense to break clubs, as opposed to simply taking a finesse. It's true that things are rarely that simple at the table, and hopefully aspiring players will eventually learn to think holistically about the hand, but don't you think it's appropriate to focus on one main idea in the N/B forum? This is probably a low-intermediate theme rather than a beginner topic anyway, but it's so common and widely applicable that I thought I would bring it up. If the N/B readers think it's too advanced, I hope they will say so, and in that case I will try harder to be level-appropriate next time. But as JustADummy has rightly pointed out in the past, what we don't want is for a bunch of more advanced posters to start arguing about things that are, at best, tangential, and at worst, completely unrelated to the main point. That just confuses the issue and discourages N/B posters from participating in the discussion.
Well, all I wanted was to have the "best" line to be part of the spoiler. In fact, once you had done that, I would have requested moderators to delete my post(maybe I should have made that clear, I apologize for that). I didn't expect to see any discussion or to have to actually make posts justifying that line! That itself is an indication that this hand (note: the hand, not the theme of the hand) might not be appropriate for the N/B forum.
I agree, tangential topics are to be avoided. That makes it important that the hands posted here are to the point, and made up so as to try and prevent such discussions (for instance, in this case, make the contract 5H, add DK and CT). Sometimes it is unavoidable, inefficient or just plain difficult to try and modify the hands in such a manner, but in that case you can always say this is the main theme of the hand, and there are other possibilities which we would not want to discuss in the N/B forum etc. Fortunately for N/B hands, this is less likely to be an issue. I hope you agree that the proposed solution ought to be "complete" (or at least mention that it does not consider some issues) in order not to confuse/mislead the N/B readers.
If there is some mistake/incompleteness in the proposed solution, there will be some discussion. That should be expected. You just cannot say, this is N/B forum, please stop the discussion. That is not the solution, IMO. We ought to put in more effort in constructing the hands to avoid such discussions in the first place (or preempt such discussions by specifically addressing the more advanced posters in the first post).
Note: I am not trying to discourage you. You have done a great job!