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#21 User is offline   JLOGIC 

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Posted 2012-February-18, 20:01

View Postwank, on 2012-February-18, 19:49, said:

acronym check? FO i could hazard a guess at


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Posted 2012-February-18, 20:31

Not an acronym, it's an accented "for sure".
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Posted 2012-February-18, 23:15

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I think we're still discussing strains, so it's concentrated hearts rather than a cue-bid. That will sometimes amount to the same thing, but one difference is that it doesn't deny a diamond cue-bid. I'd bid 3♥ with something like x AKJ Axxxx QJxx, for example.
I would bid 3Nt directly with those hands. 3Nt rather than 2Nt is a space killer so it must have a precise meaning. The french style is that when you have the choice between 2nt and 3Nt you bid 2NT with the weakest and strongest hands and 3Nt is intermediate. For us 3nt always show 1354/1345 with 15-bad 17 and H stopped twice. With weaker or 17-18 we would bid 2Nt.

I think this style is pretty common if im trusting my encounters VS american players.
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Posted 2012-February-18, 23:39

View Postbenlessard, on 2012-February-18, 23:15, said:

I would bid 3Nt directly with those hands. 3Nt rather than 2Nt is a space killer so it must have a precise meaning. The french style is that when you have the choice between 2nt and 3Nt you bid 2NT with the weakest and strongest hands and 3Nt is intermediate. For us 3nt always show 1354/1345 with 15-bad 17 and H stopped twice. With weaker or 17-18 we would bid 2Nt.

I think this style is pretty common if im trusting my encounters VS american players.



great thread...many are choosing to play/look for 3nt when I am looking for a grand slam with this examplehand.
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Posted 2012-February-18, 23:59

Just to make it clear

1D--1S
2C--2H
3Nt = 1354/1345 with 15 to a bad 17 with at least AJ9/KQx/AQx/KJT in H.

So with

1D--1S
2C--2H
2Nt--3C(GF but could be looking for best game rather than being slammish)
3H = a club oriented hands IMO. something like 1345/1354 with good clubs and prime values.

With 2254 I would bid 3S, with 1.5 H stoppers but min/soft values i would bid 3Nt. With some other unclear hands ill bid 3D.
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Posted 2012-February-19, 04:11

3H = a club oriented hands IMO. something like 1345/1354 with good clubs and prime values.

With 2254 I would bid 3S, with 1.5 H stoppers but min/soft values i would bid 3Nt. With some other unclear hands ill bid 3D.

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sigh really fine close....


In any event with that 1-3-5-4 example hand from a few posts above I look for grand slam.

I think pard will play me for:

xx...Aj...QJTxx...KQxx
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