[mich-b]

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2D = Multi (weak 2 in either major)<br>4C = please transfer to your major<br>4H = Spades

[whereagles]

Bid on. All of them.

[Fluffy]

First one, 5♠ is IMO clear, even if there is a forcing pass avaible, ♦Kx is very offensive

Second one its a clear pass, 4♠ might work (as a save more likelly than making), but its a bad bet IMO. Our defence is pretty bad, but we are still balanced.

Third one: Partner will often have 1 club, but 2 is still possible. We have 4 tricks to care about (♠AK, ♥A, ♦A), and still ♥Q might be an issue. So if partner has ♠AK we make 5♠. But look to the hand, in that case we make 1♣+1♦+1♥ (maybe even 2 if we are making 5♠) +1♠ for a likelly +500. There is no need to risk going down here, just double and collect your tricks.

[pooltuna]

1) 5♠
2) pass
3) pass

both 2 and 3 must be wrong because pass is never a solution to a bidding problem

[rduran1216]

6S

pass

5S

[mikeh]

1. 5♠. May miss slam on a bad day, but partner doesn't need 3 Aces along with good diamonds to bid 3♠.

2. Pass seems normal. I have defence and no particular offense.

3. I would double. 5♠ requires playing partner for specific cards and players who make a career out of assuming partner has the 'magic' hand don't do very well. We haven't necessarily gone plus yet.....I am a bit nervous about the diamond suit, but I have too much to pass, I think, and not the right stuff to bid, so double is what is left.

[Hanoi5]

5, 4, X.

Are we just gonna let them play 4♥ just like that in n° 2? Isn't score important? We get 100 for n°2 playing rubber...

[MrAce]

1-5♠. Pass is not forcing here.

2- Pass

3- DBL

[han]

Agree with all that mikeh said.

[JLOGIC]

Meh I dunno I kinda want to try for slam on hand one. If we bid 5D are we worried partner will bid slam too often when it's wrong? If we cuebid 5D a lot of the hands he's likely to value highly are good diamonds (he knows we have the filler) and aces. I don't think we should get to slam off 2 aces, if we had 2 keycards and the DK we would bid slam over 5H from partner most likely (maybe not?). I guess if he had a stiff club also he would overvalue that.

[FrancesHinden]

I was commentating at the time so I know all four hands, but I think

- It's virtually impossible to get the first one right.
- That if respond to a multi with the 'please transfer to your suit' 4C, then you should play pass as forcing after intervention: 4C shows you are bidding game from strength. I don't know if this pair had that agreement, but I would pass in that case.

[JLOGIC]

FrancesHinden, on 2011-August-29, 07:58, said:

I was commentating at the time so I know all four hands, but I think

- It's virtually impossible to get the first one right.

Guess we have to double 5C heh

[ArtK78]

Agree with Fluffy, Mikeh and Han.

My first thought when I saw hand #1 was to cue bid 5♦ as Justin suggests. But I just can't bring myself to do it. Partner needs more than just aces for there to be 12 tricks. As Mikeh said, we might miss a good slam occasionally by "just" bidding 5♠, but partner does not need 3 aces to bid 3♠.

[JLOGIC]

I do not understand the statement "partner does not need 3 aces to bid 3S." This statement would make sense to me if we were discussing jumping to 6S. Including the DK as a keycard on this hand, for partner to jump to 6S with 2 of the 6 keycards having already shown a strong hand and still having last train available is tough to imagine. If he needs us to have 3 of those keycards, we will probably be bidding it over a 5H bid. Maybe this is not all 100 % clear, but hopefully it does make it obvious why the argument "partner does not need 3 aces to bid 3S" is a silly one in context of discussing whether or not to make a slam try.

I think you were far more on point with "Partner needs more than just aces for there to be 12 tricks." This is true, the real question for deciding whether to slam try or not is if we are going to get to slam without 12 tricks too often after 5D, maybe we will, but I doubt we'll get to slam off 2 aces.

[JLOGIC]

double post meh

[aguahombre]

glad I am not the only one who hits the enter button too many times.

[JLOGIC]

aguahombre, on 2011-August-29, 10:57, said:

glad I am not the only one who hits the enter button too many times.

sry i am new to internet forums

[mich-b]

For those who are interested how their choice would (or would not...) work here are the full hands :
(Sorry, but I dont remember the spots exactly so they may slightly differ from the original).

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Our actions were 5♠ (doubled for -200), pass (for -420 , other table making 4♠x) and Double for -750 (other table making 5♠).
No, we didnt win the match....

[JLOGIC]

brutal

[gnasher]

On the third one, maybe South should remove the double of 5♣? He knows he's opposite some heart length, so his hand looks very good for declaring.