[Hanoi5]

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2♣ is a diamond transfer with at least 5 cards. 3♣ is natural. Is it OK so far? How would you continue?

[semeai]

1C-2C
3C

This seems fine. What would completing the transfer show for you? I'll assume it means 3+ diamonds.

---3D

Have to shape out.

Now some judgement comes in.

3H or 3NT

Partner would probably bid 3H with 4-6 even, so 3H is more just showing concentration in hearts and doubt about spades for now. Also, a moysian in hearts could be good if partner's spades are weak. 3NT may not be great with just stiff A of diamonds.

3NT is also good, for those not as fond of delicate auctions.

More judgement now. Could plow ahead in diamonds with 4D, or maybe bid/pass 3NT at mp, though I'd probably still bid on.

Over 4D, opener is minimum, but DA is good now. I'd likely just bid 5D but cueing 4H if previously bid 3NT or 4S if previously bid 3H (not 4H, which is perhaps natural). If you cue, you get to 6D I suppose.

Summary:

1C-2C
3C-3D
3N-4D
4H-6D

or

1C-2C
3C-3D
3N-4D
5D

(or variants with 3H instead, and 4S cue instead in 1st auction)

[dake50]

Auction has gone as I would.
3S now as partner heard 5+D.
Unless 3NT from partner, Diamonds diamonds diamonds.

[rduran1216]

I've shown 5 diamonds, I have 7. 3D is the obvious first bid.

If I were the 1C opener Id surely bid 3NT over this, now its up to west to bid 4D, not sure id want to be in 6.

[mike777]

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2♣ is a diamond transfer with at least 5 cards. 3♣ is natural. Is it OK so far? How would you

edit ahh i see in the title precision ....it was not in the body of the post.

given that it seems 2d is forced I dont get bidding 3c here.

Is there more to this tfr than we are told?

[benlessard]

I strongly suggest that transfers like these are weak or GF wich basically mean opener has to bid 2D unless strong 21+ or with a 6M/7C.

1C--2C--2D---??

2H=bal
2S = club short
2Nt= H short
3C = S short
3D= club void.

With 4M and 6m GF you show M first.
with both m GF we used (1C--2S) and have others sequences.

[bigtrain]

3C is an error in my opinion - there is no reason to introduce clubs with a moderate suit and a semi-balanced hand. Best for opener to bid 2NT, allowing responder to describe his hand. Opener is then better placed to continue the auction.

[klozetia]

with simple rule of most precision's and if you play prec of type "always strong hand ask if need" i try Precision i prefer bid shows that :
1♣ - 2♦ (not 5332 i have reserved 1nt on 5332 and only 5332 with 5 minor) 5+♦ 8+pts

2♥ relay
2♠ 0-4 in ♥ and 4 spades (with 5 is duty call 1♠ directly after 1♣)


2nt relay
- now 3♣ show 8-11 and help to choose is any reason to continue this or stop by bid any game as sign-off part choose continue interview now rest hands is 12+ pts :

1* 3!D♦ > 6+♦D and 4S♠
3h♥ - 4252
3s♠ - 4153
3nt - 4351
4c♣ - 6d♦ and 5♠s (exception: i know 5 spades and duty for call 1s♠ after open but with hand 6-5 !!! 12+pts and no A/K/Q in single is not the usual hand later 4♦ is OSW for details with problematic suit, it's briliant tool for ready any grand slam)

4d♦ - 4054
4h♥ - 4450

all answers with sold hand is ready to pass if part call game (4!H♥ is makeing by pass part)
4s♠,5c♣,5d♦ is to play rest is RKC on 4 aces when hand is 8-11 (no Q or K next steps show 2 acaes and number of kings the same like aces by short option) for stonger hand use OSW (16+ is regular on min 1 ace in minimum open analogic > if you keep auction so high to get so many detail to play just simple game ?
if you want play game better call this early and hide hand weak hand "asking alwyes strong hand, if you need this"

back to case 3d♦ show 6+♦ and 4s♠ now 3h♥ relay
3s♠ show single ♣
<> 4c♣ single ♥(3nt is reserved to show 7 diamonds) analogic 4♦ and 4♥ for rest voids
1* back to situation after answer 3♦ with 6+♦ and 4♠ next relay 3!H answers
3nt shows 7 diamonds 4 spades late 4♣c ask about aces (void=ace)
<> 4d♦/♠s OSW 4nt request to show void by bid 5♦ with void in clubs 4♠s void in hearts (we using to help longest suits we know) 5♣ is 1heart - 1 club
this case is very unique I had a few similar cases, (obviously I played a lot more but with a different partner, or another system) and this will only works if don't make mistake at time our 2nd respondes after 1c-2d 2h- now 2nd answer shows lots of way our hand cus other bid is explain 2!S 6+♦- 4♠ complete rest types
2nt - 4♥ and 0-3♠
3♣ - 6+!D, No side suit
3♦ - 6+!D + 4!C
3♥ - 8-11HcP, 7!D
3♠ - 12+HcP, 7321 hand
3NT - 12+HcP, 2-2-7-2
4♣/♦/♥ - 12+; 3-3-7-0 / 3-0-7-3 / 0-3-7-3

I know you think i'm crazy to try explain all of this and you thinking if small part of system is so complicated is no reason to play this % of mistake is high and we finish with damages >> profits
analyzed (that real precision not parts from other systems glued together without plan ) all of this systems was created with alternative ways on the and we can see all match perfectly, here is lots problems: how to bid this , or 1c - and 1 major questions this is 1st bid here is not time for doubts you must show part at the beginning any foundation which is the reference point for the continuation next around with avaible options defines the nature of hand
forgive me lots of mistakes i made i'm sure that with my curse quick fingers is obviously
greetings


after read this jesus what happend with lines all my replay changed in one long sentence without breaks beetwen lines sry i have no idea how format this text lol

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[klozetia]

sforgot about OSW
OSW is ask in specific suit you are interesting :
exemple from my system
1c-2d 5+d not 5332 8+pts
2h R - 3c 6+d no side suit
3d R -
3h - 8-11 pts any
3s - 6d322 12+pts 1st answer show no single next will analogic without wasting ask shows single (we are sure is not 4 suit back so ?? 6322 or 6331 )
3nt - 3-3-6-1

hand sold is mean 4c will now finish calling and forcing to 4D!
4!D ask about aces but 4h/s is OSW and never ask when on your hand you have no hnors in this suit cus you will must guess choose suit with min one honor that why :
1step AKQ or nothing
2step Q or AK
3step K or AQ
4step A or KQ
if you ask on suit you know nothing you get nothing
greetings

sry all i missed finish calling of course else is doesn't sense else never stop quick fingers all is the same only 4D! is RKC 4nt osw on diamonds if you need this