Different decision in different case?

#1 exam02

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Posted 2011-June-16, 20:07

IMP Pair, NV vs Vul

N E S W
pass (1S) 2H (3S)
4H (4S) ??

You (South) hold
♠6
♥KQJT9
♦J432
♣AKQ

what is your bid if
(1)3S was preeptive?
(2)3S was invitational raise?

Also, would the defensive value of North differ in case (1) and (2)?

Thank you

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#2 nige1

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Posted 2011-June-16, 20:21

exam02, on 2011-June-16, 20:07, said:

IMP Pair, NV vs Vul. You (South) hold ♠ 6 ♥ KQJT9 ♦ J432 ♣ AKQ
N E S W
pass (1S) 2H (3S)
4H (4S) ??
what is your bid if
(1)3S was preeptive?
(2)3S was invitational raise?
Also, would the defensive value of North differ in case (1) and (2)?

IMO...

With high card strength and only five hearts, you should double in both cases. This is not a purely penalty double but shows what bridge-players sometime call "cards" or " transferable values". Partner will usually pass but may go on with extra shape.
The defensive value of your hand hasn't changed much because you have sequences rather than tenaces. The latter are more affected by where opponents' cards lie.

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Posted 2011-June-16, 21:32

Double seems right bid to me, but look forward to posts from others

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Posted 2011-June-17, 06:03

exam02, on 2011-June-16, 20:07, said:

what is your bid if
(1)3S was preeptive?
(2)3S was invitational raise?

Also, would the defensive value of North differ in case (1) and (2)?

First of all, this doesn't change much in my eyes. The values may be distributed somewhat differently between East and West, but South doesn't really have very positional values. Oh, uh, defensive value of North? Don't know about that.

Anyway, about the bid at hand, I can imagine several hands for partner where we lose one spade and 2 diamonds, or a spade, a heart and a diamond, in 5♥. On the other hand, I'm not convinced 4♠ is making. So I'll pass, though this will be wrong some of the time.

(As a rather non-B/I aside, this seems like a good advertisement for R-S methods where 4♦ would have been a FNJ.)

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Posted 2011-June-17, 07:23

I know this is the BI forum, but I think that this is a really good auction to play that 4m by partner is a support non-jump. In fact, it is hard to think of a more suitable auction than this.

Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-June-17, 08:49

why 5H

I have provided the link, use it!

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