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5 level decision

Poll: 5 level decision (15 member(s) have cast votes)

What now ?

  1. Pass (4 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  2. Double (5 votes [33.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  3. 6C (6 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

  4. Something different (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   bluecalm 

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Posted 2011-April-23, 15:29

Matchpoints.



Is pass forcing for you ?
Would you take different action at imps ?
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Posted 2011-April-23, 19:29

pass non forcing, I double at MPs, but might pass at IMPs.
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Posted 2011-April-23, 22:06

6
Forcing schmorcing. I think we can beat 6 or and how can they not take the push? Our best is probably 11 tricks, but so what?
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Posted 2011-April-23, 22:51

Partner announced an offensive hand over 4S by 5C.
He cannot guess 0=3=3=7. Hope he has CA or HA with his 3+C.
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Posted 2011-April-24, 04:16

I find 6 relatively obvious.

- It might make.
- They might take the push.
- It might be a good save; -2 is not likely to happen very often.
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Posted 2011-April-24, 04:38

I would double, and see if partner will double 5S. If not I bid 6C.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2011-April-26, 07:13

Seems like they can't make 5 and we sure can't make 6. Looks like pass now and pass later.
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Posted 2011-April-26, 10:57

 han, on 2011-April-24, 04:38, said:

I would double, and see if partner will double 5S. If not I bid 6C.

Remind me to pass against you in this situation as responder!
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Posted 2011-April-26, 12:11

I think I'd pass but I guess it's clearer at imp's. It's not forcing, I just intervened and partner sort-of preempted, I think.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2011-April-26, 13:59

 han, on 2011-April-24, 04:38, said:

I would double, and see if partner will double 5S. If not I bid 6C.
I like Han's double, suggesting a heart lead. But I'm not sure about bidding 6.
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Posted 2011-April-26, 14:24

 nige1, on 2011-April-26, 13:59, said:

I like Han's double, suggesting a heart lead. But I'm not sure about bidding 6.


A heart lead against what contract?
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Posted 2011-April-26, 16:59

 FrancesHinden, on 2011-April-26, 14:24, said:

A heart lead against what contract?
Oh :( Frances points out that I'm on lead :(
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Posted 2011-April-26, 17:03

 nige1, on 2011-April-26, 16:59, said:

Oh :( Frances points out that I'm on lead :(


Yeah, but if you don't double for the lead, how will you know what to do?
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Posted 2011-April-26, 17:07

 kenrexford, on 2011-April-26, 17:03, said:

Yeah, but if you don't double for the lead, how will you know what to do?
:) :) :)
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Posted 2011-April-26, 17:16

 nige1, on 2011-April-26, 17:07, said:

:) :) :)


This reminds me of a signalling method some friends of mine call "Batchelder Signals."

On a particular hand, years ago, a certain gentleman (who shall remain nameless :blink: ) gave a positive signal for let's say diamonds. The defense went such-and-such poorly, and in the end the partner asked why the positive attitude in diamonds. The response was that the positive attitude signal was because he wanted his partner to cash the King in that suit. The partner of course responded that this was ridiculous, as he did not need a signal to let him know what he had in his own hand.

A few months later, the unnamed gentleman did not cash a specific card to set the contract. When the hand was over, the same partner asked why he did not cash the setting trick. Apparently, that card was somehow obscured by another card, and the unnamed individual did not know that he had it.

Aha!!! Aha!!!
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Posted 2011-April-26, 19:34

 kenrexford, on 2011-April-26, 17:16, said:

This reminds me of a signalling method some friends of mine call "Batchelder Signals."

On a particular hand, years ago, a certain gentleman (who shall remain nameless :blink: ) gave a positive signal for let's say diamonds. The defense went such-and-such poorly, and in the end the partner asked why the positive attitude in diamonds. The response was that the positive attitude signal was because he wanted his partner to cash the King in that suit. The partner of course responded that this was ridiculous, as he did not need a signal to let him know what he had in his own hand.

A few months later, the unnamed gentleman did not cash a specific card to set the contract. When the hand was over, the same partner asked why he did not cash the setting trick. Apparently, that card was somehow obscured by another card, and the unnamed individual did not know that he had it.

Aha!!! Aha!!!


I hope the guy's name is not Batchelder.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


 rbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2011-April-27, 09:29

p has to be crazy to be attemting 5 level save v/nv so
we assume p has a decent reason for 5c

if p has say
xxxx xx Kx Axxxx
i like the odds of club K with lho

even if p has
xxxx xx xx AKxxx
the 5h bid greatly increases the odds of a heart
lead vs a deadly dia.

there is no guarantee we can set 5s so 6c is sort of
a safety bid especially at imps where we should be able to
limit the damage to -200 vs at least 420 for opps
and we might just make it:))))))))))) huge plus
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