[Free]

kgr, on 2011-March-25, 03:55, said:

I would take 2NT after the DBL as to play.

As usual, it seems strange to play this as "to play", or even as INV. Imo you should play Lebensohl here. This way you can distinguish between a garbage stayman and stronger hands, with or without ♥.

For example (quickly invented, so it may have some issues):
Pass = converting to penalty
2NT = Lebensohl
...3♣ = obligated
......pass = weak hand with long ♣
......3♦ = garbage stayman with (4)5+♦, probably 3♥
......3♥ = garbage stayman with 4♥
......3♠ = GF without ♥ fit and without a clear call?
3m = natural and forcing, can still have ♥ imo
3♥ = INV, 4♥
3♠ = GF with 4♥?

[matmat]

helene_t, on 2011-March-25, 06:04, said:

yeah, probably better first to work out what the double means and what the follow-ups are. Then it might be easier to decide on the meaning of 4NT afterwards.

I would start by working out what 2♣ means. do you really have a way of showing 55+ in the minors starting with 2c even if they don't interfere?

[FrancesHinden]

...or you could just open 1C and reverse into hearts. It doesn't really look like a 1NT opening to me.

[helene_t]

FrancesHinden, on 2011-March-25, 16:34, said:

...or you could just open 1C and reverse into hearts. It doesn't really look like a 1NT opening to me.

Really? IMHO this hand is nowhere near reverse strength. And the honor structure also looks more like a balanced hand than a 2-suiter to me.

[whereagles]

Pard should be locked up for the crime of confusing bidding.

[cherdano]

helene_t, on 2011-March-25, 06:04, said:

yeah, probably better first to work out what the double means and what the follow-ups are. Then it might be easier to decide on the meaning of 4NT afterwards.

It would also be helpful to agree on a meaning for 2♣ first.

[matmat]

cherdano, on 2011-March-27, 23:45, said:

It would also be helpful to agree on a meaning for 2♣ first.

Copycat.