rhm, on 2011-January-18, 03:05, said:
After the sequence 1♦ -- 1♠ -- 4♣ in 9 out of ten cases opener longest suit will be ♦ and your ♦ holding is the worst one you can have. I admit I will probably still end up in 6♠, a bad contract but only if the defense finds the ♥ lead.
My
♦ suit is irelevant when pd asks me if i have wasted hcps in splinter suit. Perhaps you shd check the definition of splinter bid. But regardless, even if i had the best holding in pd's minor, if partner ABUSED the convention we will end up in dead end. Watch this;
KJxx
Jxx
void
AKxxxx
I think you will open 1
♣ and bid 4
♦ over 1
♠ response.
Pd has a good holding in your minor now. Guess what will he bid now ?
5
♠ to ask
♥ control and give up on keycards incase partner ABUSED the splinter again ?
AQxx
xxx
Axx
QJx
rhm, on 2011-January-18, 03:05, said:
I think on the first one responder should bid 5♠, which conventionally asks for a control in the unbid suit, ♥. Opener passes. So I do not stop in 4♠, but I play a good contract anyway. On the second one responder should simply bid 4♠, he is simply too weak to go beyond 4♠.
I think u just invented the solution to the first one,
but if partner is known to ABUSE the splinter, i think it is ok to use it and skip unimportant things like keycards and trump Q and all... 2nd one tells me u forgot which hand types splinter actually targets. If you abuse a convention thats what happens. U forget the real meaning of it. In which planet AQTxx Qx Jx xxxx can be considered TOO WEAK to stop at 4
♠ when pd has 4441 or 4351
♣ stiff and 17+ hcp ?? Construct me a hand that we cant make slam vs a normal splinter, not a RAINER HERRMAN splinter, if we have enough keycards.
rhm, on 2011-January-18, 03:05, said:
When opener splinters in response to partner's new suit bid, he does not promise a three suiter. Far more likely opener has a good ♦ suit as source of tricks. In fact if opener has the worst possible holding 4=4=4=1, he must be substantially stronger to splinter than when he has a good suit he opened in. This is not the same as splintering directly over an opening bid. In response to an opening bid, if responder has a good side suit, he first shows this, before he splinters. But splinters remain by far the best way to judge whether 2 hands fit or not. If responder holds ♠AQTx, ♥x,♦QJx, ♣Jxxxx slam is lay-down barring a first round ruff or a 5-0 trump break. No way to find this unless opener splinters.
You are in your own world again on this one, after 1m--1M opener's shape is 4441 or 4351. But if you dont wanna take the word of a bright beginner like me, i think you should google and check if anyone used any other shape than 4441 or 4351 in their examples to show what splinter by opener should look like. You are confusing this with the splinters that are made after a 2/1 response.
rhm, on 2011-January-18, 03:05, said:
Sorry, but this is nonsense. You need to improve your hand evaluation. I gave two possible sequences and I think you are referring to
1♦ 1♠
4♣ 4♥
4♠ 4NT
5♥ 7♠
4♣: Splinter
4♥: Control bid, interested in slam.
4♠: After the splinter I have nothing extra which justifies bypassing 4♠
4NT (RKB by responder, who holds the ♣ ace): What is wrong with that?
If you have some way to show 2 key-cards and the void in clubs over 4NT, that is fine with me.
5♥: 2 key cards.
Now if responder would hold the same hand but without the ♣ace, he would not bid 6♠ he would continue with 5NT, asking for additional features and opener would bid 6♣ showing the void and responder would then bid 7♠.
What is hindsight here?
Rainer Herrmann
Oh now u changed your bid ?
Because that wasnt the auction u suggested !!! Here is what u posted
It is ok, this one you just made up is also interesting. If responder did not have
♣ ace he would bid 5 nt huh ? WOW WOW WOW. Thats the first time i saw someone asking 5NT with a keycard missing in EXPERT/ADVANCED section! But the problem with that Mr.Herrmann, a bright beginner may take it as all keycards are there and may choose to bid grandslam with solid
♦ The more you talk the more interesting it gets Mr. Hermann. I think i have a lot to learn from you. I am really trying to improve my level from a bright beginner to an intermediate player and as u said i need to improve my "hand evaluation" too
rhm, on 2011-January-17, 04:01, said:
-----1♦
1♠ 4♣
4♦ 4♠
4NT 5♥
7♠
or
-----1♦
1♠ 4♣
5♦ 5♠ voidwood --> 1 keycard outside ♦
7♠
Rainer Herrmann
By the way, isn't something weird in those auctions ? (one in the previous quote and the first one in the last quote) Look at responder, cues after splinter bid, and partner says he has no extras, but he still asks 4 NT and then bids grandslam! If u are going to bid 4NT and bid 7 regardless of if pd has extras or not, why on earth did you feel the necesitty of cueing after splinter ? 4 NT after a cue sexier on the print ? Or are you trying to give as much info as you can to the opponents incase it may help them during defense as an EXPERT but GENTLE opponent ?
Please enlighten us the bright beginners Mr. Herrmann !