[jsrmath]

I play SAYC with some other 2/1 conventions and I was wondering which conventions I need to specify on my profile besides writing "SAYC". Along with basic SAYC stuff, I play all of these:

Michaels
Unusual 2NT
Gerber over NT
Grand slam force
Splinters
4-suit transfers
Texas transfers
Gambling 3NT
Negative Doubles
SOS Redoubles
DOPI

So, which are necessary to specify in my profile, and which go without saying when I write "SAYC"?

Thanks,
Julian

[Bbradley62]

To see the BBO SAYC convention card, go to:
My BBO
Convention Cards
under Stock Convention Cards: SAYC - Standard American Yellow Card (near the bottom)
click on Show and you'll see the whole card.

Included: Michaels, Unusual 2NT, Gerber over NT, Grand slam force, 4-suit xfers, Texas xfers, Neg Dbl, DOPI

Not Included: Splinters (this surprises me), Gambling 3NT, SOS Redoubles

However, you're making a huge assumption that other people know what is (and what is not) included in SAYC. You might want to say something like:
SAYC (includes 4way & Texas xfers, GSF). Also play splinter, Gambling, SOS**

[peachy]

Also Jacoby 2NT (gameforcing raise of major) is part of SAYC.

[jsrmath]

Thanks. I find myself having to alert a lot of things anyway since you can never tell what other people play, especially when their profiles are blank which really annoys me. I think I'll go with something similar to what you said.

And @Peachy, I do play Jacoby 2NT, I just forgot to write it. Thanks.

[Cascade]

Bbradley62, on 2010-November-13, 12:44, said:

To see the BBO SAYC convention card, go to:
My BBO
Convention Cards
under Stock Convention Cards: SAYC - Standard American Yellow Card (near the bottom)
click on Show and you'll see the whole card.

Included: Michaels, Unusual 2NT, Gerber over NT, Grand slam force, 4-suit xfers, Texas xfers, Neg Dbl, DOPI

Not Included: Splinters (this surprises me), Gambling 3NT, SOS Redoubles

However, you're making a huge assumption that other people know what is (and what is not) included in SAYC. You might want to say something like:
SAYC (includes 4way & Texas xfers, GSF). Also play splinter, Gambling, SOS**

SAYC does not include 4-suit transfers.

1NT 2♠ is weak with either minor

1NT 2NT is invitational

Also I think SAYC has regular Blackwood not a RKCB variation.

[helene_t]

yeah Cascade is right.

But many people think that "sayc" just means 5-card majors and strong notrump. So it may be a good idea to put J2NT on your profile also.

[peachy]

Cascade is correct, on SAYC.

[jsrmath]

OK, so I included all those, and with my remaining room, I just put some other stuff that maybe not everyone plays. My current profile is this:

SAYC, Splinters, Gambling 3NT, 4-suit Xfers, Texas Xfers, SOS XX, Jacoby 2NT, GSF, DOPI, Neg X

Sound good?

[peachy]

jsrmath, on 2010-November-13, 22:24, said:

OK, so I included all those, and with my remaining room, I just put some other stuff that maybe not everyone plays. My current profile is this:

SAYC, Splinters, Gambling 3NT, 4-suit Xfers, Texas Xfers, SOS XX, Jacoby 2NT, GSF, DOPI, Neg X

Sound good?

Yes, nicely done! You might take the Neg X away, it is played by everybody regardless of their system.

From your footnote I notice you are 14 years old. Please be sure to check the BBO Juniors activities. They have a webpage and weekly Junior tourneys (no charge, partner provided if you don't have one) with expert analyses afterward.

[das3sc]

RE: Neg X "played by everybody regardless of system." I don't remember this in Goren or Kaplan-Sheinwold, but my memory is poor. Is Neg X part of Precision, SEF, and Polish Club?

[the hog]

"Is Neg X part of Precision, SEF, and Polish Club"
Certainly!

[Vampyr]

helene_t, on 2010-November-13, 13:37, said:

But many people think that "sayc" just means 5-card majors and strong notrump. So it may be a good idea to put J2NT on your profile also.

Why do people put their preferred methods on their profile? Isn't it more convenient to provide a completed convention card, or use a stock one and stipulate "no changes"?

[paulg]

Vampyr, on 2014-July-11, 20:13, said:

Why do people put their preferred methods on their profile? Isn't it more convenient to provide a completed convention card, or use a stock one and stipulate "no changes"?

It's a lot easier to decide between random partners by looking at their profile and few are aware what is actually in the stock cards.

[mycroft]

negX - how high? remember, SAYC mandates "through 2♠" only...