[inquiry]

shoeless, on Sep 6 2005, 11:36 PM, said:

As dummy you mean?

technically at any time...

[belladonna]

but then another player can join - can he?
the way it work in 't other site' is u click on this opetion while playing and at t end of this hand u will stand - and NO CARDS will be dealt,so makes it easier to leave i think.

[Elianna]

shoeless, on Sep 6 2005, 07:01 PM, said:

One situation I can think of occurring is that a player has declared their intention to leave at the end of a hand and before they can do so there is a bid made to the next hand - again not likely to compile much of a record.

It doesn't count as a bail unless YOU make a bid on the hand.

[mink]

A possible implementation of this would be that when clicking on one's own name while playing, there should be 3 options - stand up immediately, stand up when the hand is over, remain seated.

And yes, a new hand should ony be dealt if there are 4 players sitting with all connections ok. This way, it would be possible to leave without any problem if it takes too long until the table is complete again.

Dummy standing up of course should be totally legal, as this reduces the time the table has to wait for some other player to sit there.

Karl

[julie5607]

I like the idea of "leaving" options when clicking one's name as well. This would eliminate one problem that leads to abandoned hands, the faily common situation where a player announces "last hand" but, when the next hand is dealt immediately, takes a bid and says "oh, just one more" seeing a fun and interesting set of cards. Meanwhile partner, who hasn't been dealt anything nearly as fun, is gone already and the table has to sit and wait till the person with the great hand decides what to do.

Another possible solution to this problem is a suggestion I made quite a while ago, that of allowing a host to reserve a seat for a replacement player while it is still occupied by a player who has announced he is leaving. This would really help facilitate a smooth transition between players. If it could be implemented in conjuction with "leaving options" then the seat could be reserved for a replacement player even a few hands in advance, not actually opening up until the current player clicks on his seat. If the desired replacement player is kibitzing the table, or sitting in the lobby - even playing at another table - the system could send a message (a seat has been reserved for you at xx table, would you like to sit) and refrain from redealing until the seat is occupied. Perhaps the system could even clear the reservation if the player declines to sit.

I have no issue with the "boot and bail" policy - there are certainly people who do both on an abusive level and that needs to be addressed. But I also think that, instead of just implementing punitive measures, addressing ways to smooth player transitions at table, to increase the liklihood that a pick-up partnership will be reasonably well matched, and that a table will attract the correct level of player, would go a long way towards eliminating the underlying problem.

Julie

[kgr]

inquiry, on Sep 7 2005, 05:17 AM, said:

shoeless, on Sep 6 2005, 10:01 PM, said:

I have seen a feature on another site that I liked very much - there was 'a stand at the end of this hand' button, which automatically had the player stand from their seat upon the last card being played but remain in the room to say their goodbyes through chat to table - the next hand was not dealt until the seat was filled with a replacement.  It also simply had a 'stand' function that would work for the dummy as well to facilitate a changeover of the seat.  I guess for all intends and purposes such a function would simply move the player from a seat to kib mode without leaving the table to the lobby.

Click on your own name at the table you are playing at.. it will move you from the seat to the kibitizer box (after asking if you are sure)/

If you are the table owner then you will stay the table owner if you do this (This is not good in my opinion). So make sure to stand-by to allow a newer player (if table is permission requred)!!

[Flame]

inquiry, on Sep 6 2005, 10:17 PM, said:

shoeless, on Sep 6 2005, 10:01 PM, said:

I have seen a feature on another site that I liked very much - there was 'a stand at the end of this hand' button, which automatically had the player stand from their seat upon the last card being played but remain in the room to say their goodbyes through chat to table - the next hand was not dealt until the seat was filled with a replacement.  It also simply had a 'stand' function that would work for the dummy as well to facilitate a changeover of the seat.  I guess for all intends and purposes such a function would simply move the player from a seat to kib mode without leaving the table to the lobby.

Click on your own name at the table you are playing at.. it will move you from the seat to the kibitizer box (after asking if you are sure)/

If you leave to the kib place you arent count for leaving in the middle ?