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Posted Yesterday, 21:48



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Posted Yesterday, 22:39

What's your agreement on 2? If the answer is "none", what might you be expecting?
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Posted Yesterday, 22:52

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Posted Today, 01:32

2 would be unassuming usually showing 3-card support.
3 would be a control bid
Mod. losers suggest a small slam absent opener having extras.
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Posted Today, 03:08

3S, now if partner surprises me with 3N showing spades control I bid 4H and we are off to the races. If she can only manage 4C I put the brakes on with 4D, if she's looking at hearts Ace or two spades and clubs AK she can always give it another try.
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Posted Today, 05:08

View Postpescetom, on 2026-February-13, 03:08, said:

3S, now if partner surprises me with 3N showing spades control I bid 4H and we are off to the races. If she can only manage 4C I put the brakes on with 4D, if she's looking at hearts Ace or two spades and clubs AK she can always give it another try.


Partner can have a massive hand with Jx and east will lead his singleton spade and you'll go down. Although opps have an overcall opposite a free bid, so his hand is probably not massive.

You need to bid this in a way that allows partner to cue a stiff spade, and I assume this doesn't qualify as a 3N bid, if he bids 4 and you bid 4 you are a bit stuffed if he has something like x, Axxx, KJx, Axxxx (add extras), because now he bids 4 and you don't know about spades.

For us, 2 would just be a good raise and could be 4 card support
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Posted Today, 07:35

 Cyberyeti, on 2026-February-13, 05:08, said:



You need to bid this in a way that allows partner to cue a stiff spade, and I assume this doesn't qualify as a 3N bid

Partner certainly would bid 3N with either a singleton or void. But you're right about the spades ruff all the same, it might be wiser just to bid 5D over 4C.
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Posted Today, 07:54

 pescetom, on 2026-February-13, 07:35, said:

Partner certainly would bid 3N with either a singleton or void. But you're right about the spades ruff all the same, it might be wiser just to bid 5D over 4C.

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