[jillybean]

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If you opt for checkback (2♣) you will hear 2♥

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2025-November-09, 09:12, said:

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If you opt for checkback (2♣) you will hear 2♥

Does the 2H answer says anything about spade, and strength?
I usually play, that 2H denies 3 spades, showes 4 hearts and min.
If you know about the 4th heart, you know, you dont have a club fit,
4441 is possible, but lets ignore this, and maybe your rebid is 2C,
and not 1NT.
If in addition you also dont have a spade fit, and face a min, I would
bid 3NT and be done with the hand.

[apollo1201]

Checking back is normal. At least the lead in S contracts goes to all our K.

Not sure what 2H says about S, but we realize that the hands might not mesh too well, and this is a good but not great 19.

It could be time to chicken out and bid 3NT.

At MP it is probably wiser, at IMP we can try 3C if forcing (maybe partner bids S with Kx but it is not clear where we are heading to.

[mike777]

4NT

[pescetom]

You didn't explain 1♦ which is relevant.
In any case I consider XYZ the modern standard in this situation.
I would bid 2♦ (game force without direction), obviously hoping to hear 2♠ (3 card support), which I raise.

[jillybean]

P_Marlowe, on 2025-November-09, 09:54, said:

Does the 2H answer says anything about spade, and strength?
I usually play, that 2H denies 3 spades, showes 4 hearts and min.
If you know about the 4th heart, you know, you dont have a club fit,
4441 is possible, but lets ignore this, and maybe your rebid is 2C,
and not 1NT.
If in addition you also dont have a spade fit, and face a min, I would
bid 3NT and be done with the hand.

The method I am familiar with is that 2H shows 4 but does not deny 3S.
Another discussion we never have.

pescetom, 2D xyz is not available but 2C checkback is ok

[jillybean]

mike777, on 2025-November-09, 13:49, said:

4NT

pass

[P_Marlowe]

jillybean, on 2025-November-09, 17:14, said:

The method I am familiar with is that 2H shows 4 but does not deny 3S.
Another discussion we never have.
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Both versions exists, although if responder has 4 hearts, he will have a
5 card spade suit.
And he will be more often interested in 3 spades, than in a 4 card heart
suit.

What about the min / max. information?

The name I know / use is also not checkback, it is NMF.

Anyway, if 3 spades are still possible, 3NT is premature.
You bid 3C over 2H.
This is forcing and natural, asks for add. information,
enabling opener to bid 3S, if he has 3 spades