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Very silly factoid (okay, it's an interesting *bridge hand record*...Maybe in off-top

#1 User is online   mycroft 

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Posted 2025-October-10, 15:13

So, I'm putting in my sections for the tournament today, and today is very special.

My hand record names are:
"10101000" (should have got ACBL to let me start this one 10 minutes late :-) and
"10101515".

So I get my little chuckle of the week.

Because I have to have something that fits the topic folder, what do you open with this hand from my team game last week?

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Posted 2025-October-10, 15:37

if not bot. orientated bidding I could open 2, but don't think I can easily show the 5611, so let's start with 1 playing KI5.
Now assuming 1-1 forcing;a 2 multi initially shows and asks for a preference, which will either be 3+ or 2+ and results in a straightforward auction. With a miss-fit I'm still forcing to at least a 3N/4 game.

A more standard 1, reverse, repeat does a similar job.
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Posted 2025-October-10, 16:38

One heart
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Posted 2025-October-10, 17:06

OK, I'll bite. 1
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Posted 2025-October-11, 00:14

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It reminds me of one of the fastests ways to a grand I've encountered on this site about a year ago;


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Posted 2025-October-11, 04:05

View PostHuibertus, on 2025-October-11, 00:14, said:

1

It reminds me of one of the fastests ways to a grand I've encountered on this site about a year ago;



Fastest way to grand I can remember that wasn't knowing we had 39 points from the opening bid was AKxx x3 and partner opened G3N.
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Posted 2025-October-11, 10:28

Continuing the off-topic, but "interesting":

Today's gamefile is "11SATAM". Guess how I originally mistyped that :-).

I am - quite surprised at how the bidding went at both tables(*). But, since 1 seems to be the consistent action,
See spoiler for what happens next


Spoiler


IIRC, last month in a club game, I perpetrated 2-2; 7NT...

(*)I did not hold this hand, and both pairs who did were "only occasional" partnerships. I am certainly not criticizing their decisions (well, okay, one I hope was a misclick); just saying I would never have thought to do them.
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Posted 2025-October-11, 12:47

Well I' not doubling 5!d, for all I know it might make. Surely we have a LOT of tricks in 1 of the majors, prepared to end up 1 too high if that is as we could still have a decent safe. If partner does have fit he needs very very little values for our slam, ATXX, x, XXX, XXXXX is enough finessing the Q, so 5 for me.
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Posted 2025-October-11, 13:12

1nt was forcing?
3S, that sounds forcing
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Posted 2025-October-11, 14:18

Three spades over opponents 2D call.

Partner responded 1NT, they deny Four spades
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Posted 2025-October-11, 15:28

View Postmike777, on 2025-October-11, 14:18, said:

Three spades over opponents 2D call.

Partner responded 1NT, they deny Four spades

It depends on your system, they could be showing a 3 card limit raise in hearts, and have 4 spades.

Just peeked at spoiler, Im again too high for exclusion.
Crumbs 6S
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
"100% certain that many excellent players would disagree. This is far more about style/judgment than right vs. wrong." Fred

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"Please get your heads out of the clouds and see that there are many ways to play bridge and even though you think your is the only way mine is actually better."
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Posted 2025-October-11, 15:55

Thanks, Jilly, yes, 1NT was forcing (Calgary standard 2/1).
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Posted 2025-October-11, 15:59

View Postjillybean, on 2025-October-11, 15:28, said:

It depends on your system, they could be showing a 3 card limit raise in hearts, and have 4 spades.

Just peeked at spoiler, Im again too high for exclusion.
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Why spoil a spoiler? :angry:
Why 3 when 2 is forcing? :unsure:
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Posted 2025-October-11, 19:53

View Postpescetom, on 2025-October-11, 15:59, said:

Why spoil a spoiler? :angry:
Why 3 when 2 is forcing? :unsure:

I doubt that I've spoiled the spoiler, you can't trust my bidding.😂
I'm this competitive auction, 2 is a asking for a preference, 3 is this hamd
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly. MikeH
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Posted 2025-October-12, 04:32

View Postjillybean, on 2025-October-11, 19:53, said:

I'm this competitive auction, 2 is a asking for a preference, 3 is this hamd


I'm interested in a preference and in general I want it at the lowest level possible to leave room for control bidding. But I guess that is a bit of a knee jerk here, as all I need is to RCKB the probable spades preference at any level (as you say, it depends partly upon their system here. As we play, Responder denied both 3+ hearts and 4+ spades, so will prefer spades with the probable 2=3. If 1NT might contain 3 hearts I would probably have opened 1S in the first place).

If they blast any number of diamonds we still have plenty of options.
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Posted 2025-October-29, 03:45

View PostHuibertus, on 2025-October-11, 00:14, said:

1

It reminds me of one of the fastests ways to a grand I've encountered on this site about a year ago;



You weren't afraid 1 would be passed out?

I think we all know that BBO's "shuffling algorithm" produces powerhouses oftener than random. I thought 13 cards I held yesterday were pretty good, but they pale compared to yours, Huibertus.

I only got to small slam with these cards yesterday:




Even 25hcp hands are rare, but 25hcp, all tops in a beautiful 6-4? Perhaps the best hand I've ever "held."
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