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how do you bid this hand ? little help please

#1 User is offline   shugart24 

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Posted 2025-March-15, 05:56

you hold K,Q 10,8,7 spades K,9,8,5 of hearts and A,10,8,6 in clubs. You hear me open 1D which is either a balanced 13-15 HCP (and may be 5M332) or it's long Diamonds or its 5-4 in the minors . Latter two hands would be 11-15 HCP

Actual bidding went 1D-1H-1NT (showing 13-15 HCP and denies both 4 card Majors) -2S - 3H-3NT ( 4S is cold). My hand was A,J 9 in spades A 10 4 hearts Q,J !0,9 6 Diamonds and Q 5 clubs
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Posted 2025-March-15, 06:09

Hi, why did I bid my shorter major first?

Could you please show the hands using the forum hand diagram function?
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Posted 2025-March-15, 06:10

1 is awful, you should bid the longer major first. More generally, you should be familiar with your notrump ladder, and with both bidding balanced hands and bidding opposite balanced hands. For me this would be an XYNT auction.
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Posted 2025-March-15, 06:14

View PostDavidKok, on 2025-March-15, 06:10, said:

1 is awful, you should bid the longer major first. More generally, you should be familiar with your notrump ladder, and with both bidding balanced hands and bidding opposite balanced hands. For me this would be an XYNT auction.

Please explain this nt ladder.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
“Let me put it in words you might understand,” he said. “Mr. Trump, f–k off!” Anders Vistisen
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Posted 2025-March-15, 06:37

Opener s bidding looks fine. They described their hand, showed their 3-cd support in responder s (presumed) long suit then passed 3NT with a quacky hand in the minors where responder seems to hold values.

OTOH responder f*** up the bidding by not bidding S before H. Then it would be plain sailing, 1NT rebid by opener and whichever relay you play over this will help you discover the 53 S fit.

But with both hands with solid slow D stoppers facing the void, 3NT does not look like a horrible contract.
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Posted 2025-March-15, 07:52


"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
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Posted 2025-March-15, 08:31

View Postjillybean, on 2025-March-15, 07:52, said:




Thanks, yeah I agree my son should have bid 1S over my 1D and duh - we both forgot we are playing XYZ which would solve the problem. SO 1D-1S-1NT-2D (game force)
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Posted 2025-March-15, 08:49

Perfect
When bidding majors over 1m opening always start with the longer suit.
55M down, start with highest
44M up, start with lower.
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Posted 2025-March-15, 09:05

I don't see the problem, 3N is nearly as cold as 4 (unless it's MPs)
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Posted 2025-March-15, 12:24

It was matchpoint. I made 3NT plus 1 and the field made 4s plus 1. Think I got a 30 percent on the board
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