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#1 User is offline   acer55 

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Posted Today, 13:23

XXXX
KX
AXXX
JX
1sp-2h-2sp-3h
3sp-p- ?
what would you bid with those 8 points?
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Posted Today, 13:39

Pass. Partner has denied an invitational hand by not doubling.
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Posted Today, 14:48

I wouldn't bid 2 in the first place
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Posted Today, 15:59

View Postmw64ahw, on 2025-April-29, 14:48, said:

I wouldn't bid 2 in the first place

Are you implying the OP's raise under the usual assumption of a "standard" system (3 weak, not mixed) is an error?

If so, I disagree. More likely, you have a way to show a mixed raise, which is fine, but important to clarify if the OP doesn't.
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Posted Today, 16:04

May I, I added an extra diamond



Pass but wish I was playing 1 2 3 (4 crds weak) to get this off my chest 1st round
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Posted Today, 16:41

 acer55, on 2025-April-29, 13:23, said:

XXXX
KX
AXXX
JX
1sp-2h-2sp-3h
3sp-p- ?
what would you bid with those 8 points?

Calling director 1st because I only have 12 cards

Assuming I am given a nondescript small non-spade, to make the 2S bid more ok (I tried but could not find the 2 and a half spades card in the bidding box), the disciplined action is to pass.

Partner is just competing without asking further description from me. Either they have a 6th trump, or a weakish 2-suiter with concentrated values, or sometimes a sg in their suit.

I am super max, the DA is pure, the CJ might help and the HK looks well positioned. At IMPs I might have bid differently before but now it is too late.
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Posted Today, 18:24

2S is fine
Bit too strong for weak 3S raise but close
i don't have a way to show a mixed raise after 2H overcall.

Pass now. As others said double over 3H would be game try, , 3 Spades just competitive.

Excellent problem all around.
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Posted Today, 19:00

View Postsmerriman, on 2025-April-29, 15:59, said:

Are you implying the OP's raise under the usual assumption of a "standard" system (3 weak, not mixed) is an error?

If so, I disagree. More likely, you have a way to show a mixed raise, which is fine, but important to clarify if the OP doesn't.

If I play with a pick-up partner so 'standard' is whatever it means to that person
2 is the limit of my strength
3 is Lott
Now you have X, 2N & 3 as potential forcing bids so I'll chose the one which is most likely to be understood best.



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