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Can you bid and make PAR? A symptom of Club bridge

#1 User is offline   mw64ahw 

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Posted 2022-June-30, 04:19

We were defending this hand at a club session, but I was surprised no one bid and made Par with all bar 1 pair stopping below the 3 level
The only Par bidder went down 3 which was an anomaly for the player in question.

Can you bid PAR using a favoured approach with or without gadgets and choose the right line to make the contract?

6 led when North was declarer and a low with South declarer

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Posted 2022-June-30, 04:28

I think we bid 1-1-3-4 if N only bids 2 I probably make a LSGT with the south hand and N accepts

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Posted 2022-June-30, 06:25

View Postmw64ahw, on 2022-June-30, 04:19, said:

The only Par bidder went down 3 which was an anomaly for the player in question.


I am not working out here how North became declarer on this hand, even if not using 2/1. I go with Cyberyeti's auction and South ends up in 4 as PAR contract. Difficult hand to play: a few options to think through. The opps. hands must have distributional to end up 3 down. What went wrong? I will let others answer before having a try myself here.
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Posted 2022-June-30, 06:58

View PostLBengtsson, on 2022-June-30, 06:25, said:

I am not working out here how North became declarer on this hand, even if not using 2/1. I go with Cyberyeti's auction and South ends up in 4 as PAR contract. Difficult hand to play: a few options to think through. The opps. hands must have distributional to end up 3 down. What went wrong? I will let others answer before having a try myself here.

I guess N/S were playing ACOL (Not my forte) and South didn't like the suit so bid 2 showing 8+.
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Posted 2022-June-30, 07:05

View Postmw64ahw, on 2022-June-30, 06:58, said:

I guess N/S were playing ACOL (Not my forte) and South didn't like the suit so bid 2 showing 8+.


There may be a system that bids like that but it is not Acol.
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Posted 2022-June-30, 09:42

View PostTMorris, on 2022-June-30, 07:05, said:

There may be a system that bids like that but it is not Acol.


And even if they did bid 2, the N hand is not a reverse if you DO 2/1 on 8 so it continues 2-2, there is a tenet observed by most Acol players that you respond the major if you're going to pass opener rebidding his suit and not get the major in second time.
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Posted 2022-June-30, 09:44

We would bid one of cyberyeti's auctions in 2/1, although in another more eccentric partnership it could even go 1NT-2;2-2;3-4.
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Posted 2022-June-30, 09:49

I don't play this, but I imagine the auction in half my club would be 2-4. Flannery, of course.
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