[Douglas43]

Vampyr, on 2020-September-06, 14:20, said:

Natural strong twos are decades out of date here, but Benji players will have 2♦ as a second strong artificial bid.

For background Acol Twos were natural strong twos, just short of the values for 2C which was a game force. They showed 8 playing tricks and usually an agreed minimum number of hcp or honour tricks (so not just AKQxxxxx and bust). Forcing for one round, they guaranteed opener a chance to show a second suit if held.

Acol twos were still "standard" when I started playing in the 1970s and they are useful when they come up, especially at IMPs scoring. But as Vampyr says, they have been out of fashion for decades. Most pairs in the UK play some variation of weak twos / multi 2D / weak 5-5s etc

P.S. Just made myself feel ancient. I was a teenager when I learned to play! https://www.bridgeba...default/sad.gif

[haka9]

pescetom, on 2020-September-06, 05:49, said:

I would feel surprised that opponents with 17 HCP and a fit in spades remained silent. Such combinations are unlikely in any event, and bidding with the field (assuming we are in the 21st century and nobody plays strong 2 diamonds) takes out much of the remaining risk.

I would feel not at all surprised, if the bidding goes: 1 ♦ - p - p - p. After two passes the last bidder makes a decision. That's why I open 2 ♣.

[nullve]

haka9, on 2020-October-18, 08:46, said:

I would feel not at all surprised, if the bidding goes: 1 ♦ - p - p - p. After two passes the last bidder makes a decision. That's why I open 2 ♣.

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   1.
5                   J 9 8 7 6 3 2       4                   A K Q T 
T 8 5 3             9 6                 A K Q J 2           7 4 
9 6 3               J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
K Q T 9 8           6 5                 A                   J 7 4 3 2 

   2.
A 8 6 5 3 2         Q J T               4                   K 9 7 
9 7 6 3             -                   A K Q J 2           T 8 5 4 
6                   J T 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 4 
Q 3                 J 9 8 7 6 4 2       A                   K T 5 

   3.
A T 7 6 5           K 9 8 3             4                   Q J 2 
8 5                 4 3                 A K Q J 2           T 9 7 6 
T 4 3               J 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 
9 8 6               K Q J T 2           A                   7 5 4 3 

   4.
K J 9 7 6           A T 5 3             4                   Q 8 2 
7                   8 4 3               A K Q J 2           T 9 6 5 
J 6 3               T 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
6 5 3 2             K Q T 8             A                   J 9 7 4 

   5.
A J 9 6 5           K Q T 8 7           4                   3 2 
5 4 3               T 8                 A K Q J 2           9 7 6 
K T 3               J 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 
3 2                 Q J 7 6             A                   K T 9 8 5 4 

   6.
A Q T 9 2           K 5                 4                   J 8 7 6 3 
T 7 3               9 8 6 5 4           A K Q J 2           - 
-                   K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 9 6 3 
8 7 6 5 4           K Q J 3             A                   T 9 2 

   7.
A K 9 2             Q T 7 6 5 3         4                   J 8 
7 6                 8                   A K Q J 2           T 9 5 4 3 
J 4                 K T 9 6             A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
K T 8 7 4           5 2                 A                   Q J 9 6 3 

   8.
A J T 8 7 5 3       K 6 2               4                   Q 9 
-                   7 6 3               A K Q J 2           T 9 8 5 4 
K 9 3               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 6 4 
4 3 2               K J T 9 8 6 5       A                   Q 7 

   9.
J T 9 6 5           K 8 7 3             4                   A Q 2 
3                   T 8 7 5             A K Q J 2           9 6 4 
J 9 3               K 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 4 
K Q J 5             9 4 2               A                   T 8 7 6 3 

  10.
J T 8 3             A K 2               4                   Q 9 7 6 5 
T 8 7 5 4           3                   A K Q J 2           9 6 
9                   J 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 
J 8 7               K Q 9 6 5 3         A                   T 4 2 

  11.
A K 7 5 3           J 9                 4                   Q T 8 6 2 
T 7 4               9 8 6               A K Q J 2           5 3 
K J 6               4 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 
K 4                 Q T 9 7 6 2         A                   J 8 5 3 

  12.
K Q 7 3             A J 9 8 6 5 2       4                   T 
9 8 5 4             T                   A K Q J 2           7 6 3 
J T 3               9 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
Q 5                 7 6 4               A                   K J T 9 8 3 2 

  13.
Q 9 5 3             K J 8 7             4                   A T 6 2 
T 8 6               9 7                 A K Q J 2           5 4 3 
J 9 6 3             K                   A Q 8 7 5 2         T 4 
9 2                 J T 8 6 4 3         A                   K Q 7 5 

  14.
A                   Q 8 7 6 5 3 2       4                   K J T 9 
7 4 3               T 6                 A K Q J 2           9 8 5 
K J 9 6 3           T                   A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
T 5 3 2             K 6 4               A                   Q J 9 8 7 

  15.
J T 8 3             A Q 6 2             4                   K 9 7 5 
7 6 4               9 8                 A K Q J 2           T 5 3 
K J 9 6             T 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
6 3                 9 8 7 4 2           A                   K Q J T 5 

  16.
J 8                 A Q T 9 6 3         4                   K 7 5 2 
9 6 4               T 7 3               A K Q J 2           8 5 
K 9 4 3             T                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 6 
K Q T 5             7 6 2               A                   J 9 8 4 3 

  17.
A K Q 6 2           T 7 5 3             4                   J 9 8 
4 3                 T 8                 A K Q J 2           9 7 6 5 
J 4 3               T 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
K J 9               Q 7 6 3 2           A                   T 8 5 4 

  18.
K 9 5 3             8 2                 4                   A Q J T 7 6 
4                   9 8 5 3             A K Q J 2           T 7 6 
T 4                 K 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         J 9 
Q J 9 7 3 2         K T 8 4             A                   6 5 

  19.
K Q 9 7 6           8 5 3               4                   A J T 2 
-                   9 6 4               A K Q J 2           T 8 7 5 3 
K T 6 3             J 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
K Q 4 3             T 9 7 6 2           A                   J 8 5 

  20.
A Q 9 8 7 3         -                   4                   K J T 6 5 2 
T 4 3               8 7 5               A K Q J 2           9 6 
K                   J 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 4 
K 6 2               Q J T 9 5 4 3       A                   8 7 

  21.
Q 9 6 3 2           K J 8 5             4                   A T 7 
T 9 3               8 5 4               A K Q J 2           7 6 
T 3                 6 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 
K 6 5               Q J 8 7             A                   T 9 4 3 2 

  22.
A K Q 5             J T 8 6 3 2         4                   9 7 
T 6 5 4             3                   A K Q J 2           9 8 7 
K T 9               6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 4 3 
Q 7                 K T 8 5 2           A                   J 9 6 4 3 

  23.
A J 7 3             K T 5 2             4                   Q 9 8 6 
T 5 4 3             9 8 6               A K Q J 2           7 
4                   K T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J 9 6 3 
K T 7 5             J 9 8 6             A                   Q 4 3 2 

  24.
Q T 9 7 6 3         A J 8 5 2           4                   K 
4                   9 8 7 5 3           A K Q J 2           T 6 
K T 9               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 6 4 3 
7 5 3               Q T 2               A                   K J 9 8 6 4 

  25.
K Q 9 8 6 3         A T 7 2             4                   J 5 
9 6                 T 8 5               A K Q J 2           7 4 3 
9 3                 K J                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 6 4 
K Q 9               7 6 5 2             A                   J T 8 4 3 

  26.
K 5 3               J 9 7               4                   A Q T 8 6 2 
8 7 6               T 5 4 3             A K Q J 2           9 
K J 6               T 9 4               A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
8 7 5 3             J 6 4               A                   K Q T 9 2 

  27.
K Q 9 2             A T 7 5 3           4                   J 8 6 
T 8 7 5 3           9                   A K Q J 2           6 4 
6                   T 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 3 
J 9 3               Q T 8 7 4           A                   K 6 5 2 

  28.
K 8 3 2             A Q J 9 7 6         4                   T 5 
7 6 4               3                   A K Q J 2           T 9 8 5 
9 4                 K T 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         J 
J 8 7 6             Q 2                 A                   K T 9 5 4 3 

  29.
Q 9 5 2             A K T 7 6 3         4                   J 8 
8 7 6               T 9                 A K Q J 2           5 4 3 
-                   T 6 4 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 
K T 9 8 6 4         2                   A                   Q J 7 5 3 

  30.
A J 9 8 6 3         K Q 5 2             4                   T 7 
9 5                 T 8 7 4             A K Q J 2           6 3 
-                   J 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 4 3 
J T 8 7 4           K 9 2               A                   Q 6 5 3 

  31.
A 9 8 5 3           J 7                 4                   K Q T 6 2 
6                   T 8                 A K Q J 2           9 7 5 4 3 
J T 4 3             K 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
K J 7               Q 8 6 5 4 2         A                   T 9 3 

  32.
-                   K Q J 9 8 7 6 3     4                   A T 5 2 
8 6 4               7 5                 A K Q J 2           T 9 3 
9 3                 J 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
Q T 9 8 7 6 4 3     K                   A                   J 5 2 

  33.
9 8 6 2             K Q J T 3           4                   A 7 5 
8 7 6               9 3                 A K Q J 2           T 5 4 
J 9 3               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 4 
9 6 5               K Q J T 3 2         A                   8 7 4 

  34.
8 6 3 2             Q T 5               4                   A K J 9 7 
6 5                 T 9 7 4 3           A K Q J 2           8 
J 3                 4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 9 6 
8 6 4 3 2           Q J 7 5             A                   K T 9 

  35.
K 5 3               A Q J T 9 8 6       4                   7 2 
T 9 7 3             6                   A K Q J 2           8 5 4 
6 4 3               9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 
K 7 2               J 9 6 3             A                   Q T 8 5 4 

  36.
K T 9 8 6 5 2       A Q J               4                   7 3 
6                   9 7 5               A K Q J 2           T 8 4 3 
6                   J 9 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
K Q 8 7             T 4 3 2             A                   J 9 6 5 

  37.
A Q 8 7 3 2         K                   4                   J T 9 6 5 
T                   9 5 4               A K Q J 2           8 7 6 3 
K 6                 J T 9 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
K J 9 6             Q 8 7 5 2           A                   T 4 3 

  38.
A Q 8 6             K 9                 4                   J T 7 5 3 2 
8 5 3               9 4                 A K Q J 2           T 7 6 
K J 4 3             T 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         9 
Q 5                 K J T 8 7 6 2       A                   9 4 3 

  39.
K T 9 8 6           J 5 3 2             4                   A Q 7 
6 3                 9 8 4               A K Q J 2           T 7 5 
K 9 3               J 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 6 
J 6 4               K 9 5 3             A                   Q T 8 7 2 

  40.
A Q 6 2             9 7 5 3             4                   K J T 8 
7 4                 T 9 8 6 3           A K Q J 2           5 
J 6 4 3             9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 
K 8 7               Q T 3               A                   J 9 6 5 4 2 

  41.
A Q T 6             K J 3 2             4                   9 8 7 5 
T 8 4               7 6                 A K Q J 2           9 5 3 
6 4 3               J                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 9 
T 3 2               Q J 9 7 6 4         A                   K 8 5 

  42.
A T 3               J 8 6 2             4                   K Q 9 7 5 
4 3                 9 8 7 6             A K Q J 2           T 5 
J 9 6 3             4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 
6 5 4 2             K Q J 7             A                   T 9 8 3 

  43.
8 7                 A K J 3 2           4                   Q T 9 6 5 
7 6 5 4             9 8 3               A K Q J 2           T 
K T 9               J 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         6 4 
T 5 4 2             K 7 6               A                   Q J 9 8 3 

  44.
6 2                 K J 9 7 5           4                   A Q T 8 3 
9 8 5               T 7 4 3             A K Q J 2           6 
J 9                 -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 4 3 
K Q T 5 3 2         J 8 6 4             A                   9 7 

  45.
T 7 6               K Q J 8 2           4                   A 9 5 3 
9 5 4               T 8 3               A K Q J 2           7 6 
6                   J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 4 3 
Q J 8 7 5 3         T 9 4               A                   K 6 2 

  46.
K Q T 6 3 2         A                   4                   J 9 8 7 5 
T 9 7               5 4                 A K Q J 2           8 6 3 
T 9                 K J 6 4             A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
J 5                 K T 8 7 6 3         A                   Q 9 4 2 

  47.
K 6                 A Q J T 7           4                   9 8 5 3 2 
4 3                 6 5                 A K Q J 2           T 9 8 7 
T                   J 9 6 4             A Q 8 7 5 2         K 3 
K T 9 7 6 5 4 3     J 8                 A                   Q 2 

  48.
A K Q J T 7 2       8 6                 4                   9 5 3 
5 3                 9 7                 A K Q J 2           T 8 6 4 
9 4                 T 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 
9 7                 K Q T 8 4 2         A                   J 6 5 3 

  49.
A K J 8 7 2         6                   4                   Q T 9 5 3 
9 5 4               T 8 7 6             A K Q J 2           3 
-                   9 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 6 4 
K Q J 5             8 7 6 4 3 2         A                   T 9 

  50.
A 9                 K Q J 3 2           4                   T 8 7 6 5 
T 5                 9 7 4 3             A K Q J 2           8 6 
T 9 6               K 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J 4 
Q 9 8 5 4 2         K 7                 A                   J T 6 3 

  51.
A K Q J 9           7 6 5 3 2           4                   T 8 
8 5 4               T 9                 A K Q J 2           7 6 3 
4 3                 -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 9 6 
K J T               Q 9 8 6 5 3         A                   7 4 2 

  52.
K Q T 6             8 5 3 2             4                   A J 9 7 
9 8 5 4             7 6 3               A K Q J 2           T 
K 4                 J T 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 
K Q 5               8 7 3               A                   J T 9 6 4 2 

  53.
Q 8 5 2             A J 3               4                   K T 9 7 6 
7 5 3               9 6 4               A K Q J 2           T 8 
K J 9               6 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         T 
Q 7 4               K 9 8 5             A                   J T 6 3 2 

  54.
A J 3 2             Q 9 5               4                   K T 8 7 6 
T 9 8               7 5 4               A K Q J 2           6 3 
4                   T 9 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 
J 8 7 5 4           K Q 2               A                   T 9 6 3 

  55.
Q 6 5               A J 8 7 3 2         4                   K T 9 
T 6 5 3             9 8 7               A K Q J 2           4 
9                   -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 6 4 3 
Q 8 6 4 3           K 9 7 5             A                   J T 2 

  56.
Q 8 7 2             A K 5               4                   J T 9 6 3 
T 9 6 5             8 4 3               A K Q J 2           7 
J T 9               K 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         6 
5 2                 9 7 6 4             A                   K Q J T 8 3 

  57.
Q J T 5             9 7 3 2             4                   A K 8 6 
T 5 3               8                   A K Q J 2           9 7 6 4 
T                   K J 9 4 3           A Q 8 7 5 2         6 
K 9 6 4 3           Q 5 2               A                   J T 8 7 

  58.
T 5 3               Q 9 7 2             4                   A K J 8 6 
3                   T 7 5 4             A K Q J 2           9 8 6 
T 4                 J 9 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
K T 8 7 6 5 2       4 3                 A                   Q J 9 

  59.
K 9 8 2             J T 7 6 5           4                   A Q 3 
8 7 4 3             T 9 6 5             A K Q J 2           - 
6                   9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 4 3 
K T 7 6             9 3 2               A                   Q J 8 5 4 

  60.
Q J 3               A 7 6 5 2           4                   K T 9 8 
5 3                 9 6                 A K Q J 2           T 8 7 4 
J T 9 6             K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
9 6 5 3             Q 8 7 2             A                   K J T 4 

  61.
K 7 6               Q J 8 2             4                   A T 9 5 3 
T 8 7 5 3           6                   A K Q J 2           9 4 
4                   K J 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 
J T 6 3             Q 9 8 4             A                   K 7 5 2 

  62.
K J 6               Q T 8 7 2           4                   A 9 5 3 
7 6 3               T 5                 A K Q J 2           9 8 4 
6                   K J 4               A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 3 
T 9 8 6 4 2         K 5 3               A                   Q J 7 

  63.
K J 8 3             9 7 5 2             4                   A Q T 6 
-                   9 8 7 6 5 4 3       A K Q J 2           T 
J 6 4               K                   A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 3 
T 9 8 4 3 2         6                   A                   K Q J 7 5 

  64.
A T 9 6 5 3 2       K J                 4                   Q 8 7 
-                   9 7 6 5 3           A K Q J 2           T 8 4 
6 3                 J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 4 
Q 6 4 3             J T 8 2             A                   K 9 7 5 

  65.
T 9 6 3             8 7 5               4                   A K Q J 2 
7 4                 8 5 3               A K Q J 2           T 9 6 
9 4 3               J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
K J 6 5             Q T 7 4 2           A                   9 8 3 

  66.
Q 7 5 3             J T 9 6             4                   A K 8 2 
8 5                 7                   A K Q J 2           T 9 6 4 3 
J 9 3               K T 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
K 7 6 4             Q J 8 5 2           A                   T 9 3 

  67.
T 7 6 5 2           A Q J 9 8 3         4                   K 
7 5                 9 8                 A K Q J 2           T 6 4 3 
J 6 3               K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 
5 4 2               Q J T               A                   K 9 8 7 6 3 

  68.
9 8 7 6             Q 5 2               4                   A K J T 3 
3                   8 6 5               A K Q J 2           T 9 7 4 
J T 6 4             K 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
9 6 4 3             K Q J T 2           A                   8 7 5 

  69.
Q J 8 6             A T 7 2             4                   K 9 5 3 
8 7                 9 5 4 3             A K Q J 2           T 6 
T 9                 K J 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 3 
Q J 9 5 4           T 3                 A                   K 8 7 6 2 

  70.
A J 9 7 3           K T 5 2             4                   Q 8 6 
9                   T 8 7 5             A K Q J 2           6 4 3 
J T 9 4             K 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         6 
7 5 2               K T 8               A                   Q J 9 6 4 3 

  71.
T 8 5 2             K J 7               4                   A Q 9 6 3 
8 7 5               9 3                 A K Q J 2           T 6 4 
K                   T 9 6 4 3           A Q 8 7 5 2         J 
K J 7 5 3           9 6 2               A                   Q T 8 4 

  72.
9                   K T 7               4                   A Q J 8 6 5 3 2 
9 5                 T 8 7 6             A K Q J 2           4 3 
K J 9 4             T 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
T 9 8 6 5 2         K J 4               A                   Q 7 3 

  73.
K J 8 7 2           Q T 5               4                   A 9 6 3 
7 5 4               T 9                 A K Q J 2           8 6 3 
4                   J 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 3 
K J 8 2             T 7 6 5 3           A                   Q 9 4 

  74.
J 5 2               A Q T 9 8 6         4                   K 7 3 
6 4 3               9 7 5               A K Q J 2           T 8 
K J T               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 4 3 
T 8 4 3             Q 7 6 2             A                   K J 9 5 

  75.
K Q 9 8 3           A T                 4                   J 7 6 5 2 
8 6 3               T 7 5 4             A K Q J 2           9 
-                   J T 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 6 4 
Q J 8 6 2           K T 9 7             A                   5 4 3 

  76.
A J T 8 2           9 7                 4                   K Q 6 5 3 
9 6 4               T 5                 A K Q J 2           8 7 3 
9                   6 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 
Q 8 5 2             K T 9 7 6 3         A                   J 4 

  77.
A K T 9 5 3         Q 8 2               4                   J 7 6 
8 5 4               T 9 6               A K Q J 2           7 3 
J 9                 K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 6 3 
J 9                 K T 8 3 2           A                   Q 7 6 5 4 

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6 5 3 2             K 8 7               4                   A Q J T 9 
T 9                 8 7 6 5 4           A K Q J 2           3 
K T 4               6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 9 3 
K 8 7 4             T 9 6 5             A                   Q J 3 2 

  79.
A Q T 7 5           J 9 8 6 3           4                   K 2 
4                   T 8 6 3             A K Q J 2           9 7 5 
K J T 9             6 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
6 3 2               T                   A                   K Q J 9 8 7 5 4 

  80.
K T 9 2             A J 8 7             4                   Q 6 5 3 
T 8 5 4             7 3                 A K Q J 2           9 6 
9                   J 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
K 8 4 3             Q J T 6             A                   9 7 5 2 

  81.
K Q T 8 7 3         A J 9 6             4                   5 2 
8                   9 7 6 5 4 3         A K Q J 2           T 
9 6                 K J                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 4 3 
Q 9 7 4             J                   A                   K T 8 6 5 3 2 

  82.
K J 9 7 5           Q 6 2               4                   A T 8 3 
9 5 4               T 7 3               A K Q J 2           8 6 
T 9                 6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 4 3 
5 4 3               Q J 9 8 7 2         A                   K T 6 

  83.
K Q T 8             A 6 5 3 2           4                   J 9 7 
T 3                 5 4                 A K Q J 2           9 8 7 6 
9 4                 K J 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         T 
T 9 7 6 4           K 3                 A                   Q J 8 5 2 

  84.
A K T 3             Q 8 7 5             4                   J 9 6 2 
9 3                 -                   A K Q J 2           T 8 7 6 5 4 
K J 3               T 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
8 5 4 3             K Q J 9 7 6         A                   T 2 

  85.
A K T 9 8 3 2       J 6 5               4                   Q 7 
5                   9 7 6               A K Q J 2           T 8 4 3 
T 3                 J 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
T 8 3               K J 7 6             A                   Q 9 5 4 2 

  86.
A J 9 3             7 6 2               4                   K Q T 8 5 
8 4 3               T 9 7 6 5           A K Q J 2           - 
4                   T 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 6 
K J 9 8 7           T 4 3               A                   Q 6 5 2 

  87.
Q 7 6               A J 9 8 2           4                   K T 5 3 
T 5 3               8 4                 A K Q J 2           9 7 6 
K 6 3               4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 9 
Q J 8 3             T 9 7 5 2           A                   K 6 4 

  88.
A K 7 3 2           8 6                 4                   Q J T 9 5 
8 5                 9 7 4 3             A K Q J 2           T 6 
T 6                 J 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 3 
K Q 7 2             J T 6 5 4           A                   9 8 3 

  89.
9 8 3               Q 7 6 5             4                   A K J T 2 
5                   9 8 3               A K Q J 2           T 7 6 4 
6 3                 K J T 9 4           A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
K Q J 6 4 3 2       9                   A                   T 8 7 5 

  90.
J 9 5               8 6                 4                   A K Q T 7 3 2 
7 5 3               9 8 6 4             A K Q J 2           T 
J T 9 6             K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
K Q T               9 8 4 3 2           A                   J 7 6 5 

  91.
8 6 5               A Q J T 7 3         4                   K 9 2 
T 9 4 3             7 6 5               A K Q J 2           8 
T 9                 4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 6 3 
9 7 6 2             Q 5 4               A                   K J T 8 3 

  92.
J T 6 3             A K Q 2             4                   9 8 7 5 
6 3                 5 4                 A K Q J 2           T 9 8 7 
K T 6 4             9 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J 
6 5 2               Q J 9 7 4           A                   K T 8 3 

  93.
A Q T 9             K 8 5 2             4                   J 7 6 3 
9 8 6 3             T                   A K Q J 2           7 5 4 
K 3                 9 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 6 
5 4 2               K J T 7 6 3         A                   Q 9 8 

  94.
K 9 7 3 2           Q J                 4                   A T 8 6 5 
T 3                 7 6                 A K Q J 2           9 8 5 4 
J 9                 K T 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 3 
K 9 4 3             Q J T 8 7 6         A                   5 2 

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Q                   A 8 7 6 2           4                   K J T 9 5 3 
8 7 6 4             9                   A K Q J 2           T 5 3 
J T 3               K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 
K Q J 9 4           T 8 5 3 2           A                   7 6 

  96.
6 2                 K T 9 3             4                   A Q J 8 7 5 
T 6                 9 4 3               A K Q J 2           8 7 5 
J T 9 3             6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
K J T 5 3           Q 8 7 6 2           A                   9 4 

  97.
K Q J 6 3           T 8 7 5 2           4                   A 9 
6                   9 7 5 4             A K Q J 2           T 8 3 
9 4                 T 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 6 
J T 9 5 4           K 8                 A                   Q 7 6 3 2 

  98.
A K T 8 7 5 3       6                   4                   Q J 9 2 
9 5                 T 8 7 4 3           A K Q J 2           6 
9                   K T 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         J 4 
9 7 5               K Q 2               A                   J T 8 6 4 3 

  99.
K 2                 A 9 8 5 3           4                   Q J T 7 6 
9 8 5               7 6                 A K Q J 2           T 4 3 
J 6 3               9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
J T 9 7 3           Q 6 5 4 2           A                   K 8 

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A J 8 7 3           T                   4                   K Q 9 6 5 2 
T 8 3               9 7 6               A K Q J 2           5 4 
K                   9 6 4 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 
K 9 6 2             Q T 8 5 4           A                   J 7 3 

Generated 100 hands
Produced 100 hands
Initial random seed 1603034647
Time needed    0.002 sec

are 100 random deals using the following Dealer code:

predeal south S4, HAKQJ2, DAQ8752, CA
produce 100

I guess the auction could go 1♦-AP on board 45.

[fromageGB]

Vampyr, on 2020-September-05, 05:08, said:

Still better than trying to show two suits after a 2♣ opening.

I don't understand this.
2♣ - 2♦(say, for me an ace or a king)
2♥(natural suit) - 2♠ (denies 3 card support)
3♦ (second suit)
is normal, and I don't see a problem.
Then if R bids 3♥ it is preference, and then 3♠ asks "stuff", or if R prefers diamonds he shows "stuff" with bids that bypass hearts, so here that would be 3♠ upwards.

[DavidKok]

A big risk with opening 2♣ is that, by virtue of you having so much shape, one of those pesky opponents also rates to have a long suit. What is your bid to show this hand after 2♣-(3♠)-P-(P); ?
Similarly, partner (the middle opponent) might have long spades and a few points and jump the gun. Conversely, with all those spades and clubs outstanding it is unlikely a 1-opening will be passed out.

[AL78]

Tramticket, on 2020-September-06, 02:58, said:

Only if you get a second bid. These are all two-loser hands.

The chances of it getting passed out given your shape are extremely small. Someone has the spades, and there are 20 HCP divided between the three other hands.

More of an issue is playing catchup throughout the auction, as partner is never playing you for a two loser hand.

[AL78]

nullve, on 2020-October-18, 09:47, said:

Here

Spoiler

   1.
5                   J 9 8 7 6 3 2       4                   A K Q T 
T 8 5 3             9 6                 A K Q J 2           7 4 
9 6 3               J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
K Q T 9 8           6 5                 A                   J 7 4 3 2 

   2.
A 8 6 5 3 2         Q J T               4                   K 9 7 
9 7 6 3             -                   A K Q J 2           T 8 5 4 
6                   J T 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 4 
Q 3                 J 9 8 7 6 4 2       A                   K T 5 

   3.
A T 7 6 5           K 9 8 3             4                   Q J 2 
8 5                 4 3                 A K Q J 2           T 9 7 6 
T 4 3               J 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 
9 8 6               K Q J T 2           A                   7 5 4 3 

   4.
K J 9 7 6           A T 5 3             4                   Q 8 2 
7                   8 4 3               A K Q J 2           T 9 6 5 
J 6 3               T 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
6 5 3 2             K Q T 8             A                   J 9 7 4 

   5.
A J 9 6 5           K Q T 8 7           4                   3 2 
5 4 3               T 8                 A K Q J 2           9 7 6 
K T 3               J 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 
3 2                 Q J 7 6             A                   K T 9 8 5 4 

   6.
A Q T 9 2           K 5                 4                   J 8 7 6 3 
T 7 3               9 8 6 5 4           A K Q J 2           - 
-                   K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 9 6 3 
8 7 6 5 4           K Q J 3             A                   T 9 2 

   7.
A K 9 2             Q T 7 6 5 3         4                   J 8 
7 6                 8                   A K Q J 2           T 9 5 4 3 
J 4                 K T 9 6             A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
K T 8 7 4           5 2                 A                   Q J 9 6 3 

   8.
A J T 8 7 5 3       K 6 2               4                   Q 9 
-                   7 6 3               A K Q J 2           T 9 8 5 4 
K 9 3               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 6 4 
4 3 2               K J T 9 8 6 5       A                   Q 7 

   9.
J T 9 6 5           K 8 7 3             4                   A Q 2 
3                   T 8 7 5             A K Q J 2           9 6 4 
J 9 3               K 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 4 
K Q J 5             9 4 2               A                   T 8 7 6 3 

  10.
J T 8 3             A K 2               4                   Q 9 7 6 5 
T 8 7 5 4           3                   A K Q J 2           9 6 
9                   J 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 
J 8 7               K Q 9 6 5 3         A                   T 4 2 

  11.
A K 7 5 3           J 9                 4                   Q T 8 6 2 
T 7 4               9 8 6               A K Q J 2           5 3 
K J 6               4 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 
K 4                 Q T 9 7 6 2         A                   J 8 5 3 

  12.
K Q 7 3             A J 9 8 6 5 2       4                   T 
9 8 5 4             T                   A K Q J 2           7 6 3 
J T 3               9 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
Q 5                 7 6 4               A                   K J T 9 8 3 2 

  13.
Q 9 5 3             K J 8 7             4                   A T 6 2 
T 8 6               9 7                 A K Q J 2           5 4 3 
J 9 6 3             K                   A Q 8 7 5 2         T 4 
9 2                 J T 8 6 4 3         A                   K Q 7 5 

  14.
A                   Q 8 7 6 5 3 2       4                   K J T 9 
7 4 3               T 6                 A K Q J 2           9 8 5 
K J 9 6 3           T                   A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
T 5 3 2             K 6 4               A                   Q J 9 8 7 

  15.
J T 8 3             A Q 6 2             4                   K 9 7 5 
7 6 4               9 8                 A K Q J 2           T 5 3 
K J 9 6             T 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
6 3                 9 8 7 4 2           A                   K Q J T 5 

  16.
J 8                 A Q T 9 6 3         4                   K 7 5 2 
9 6 4               T 7 3               A K Q J 2           8 5 
K 9 4 3             T                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 6 
K Q T 5             7 6 2               A                   J 9 8 4 3 

  17.
A K Q 6 2           T 7 5 3             4                   J 9 8 
4 3                 T 8                 A K Q J 2           9 7 6 5 
J 4 3               T 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
K J 9               Q 7 6 3 2           A                   T 8 5 4 

  18.
K 9 5 3             8 2                 4                   A Q J T 7 6 
4                   9 8 5 3             A K Q J 2           T 7 6 
T 4                 K 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         J 9 
Q J 9 7 3 2         K T 8 4             A                   6 5 

  19.
K Q 9 7 6           8 5 3               4                   A J T 2 
-                   9 6 4               A K Q J 2           T 8 7 5 3 
K T 6 3             J 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
K Q 4 3             T 9 7 6 2           A                   J 8 5 

  20.
A Q 9 8 7 3         -                   4                   K J T 6 5 2 
T 4 3               8 7 5               A K Q J 2           9 6 
K                   J 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 4 
K 6 2               Q J T 9 5 4 3       A                   8 7 

  21.
Q 9 6 3 2           K J 8 5             4                   A T 7 
T 9 3               8 5 4               A K Q J 2           7 6 
T 3                 6 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 
K 6 5               Q J 8 7             A                   T 9 4 3 2 

  22.
A K Q 5             J T 8 6 3 2         4                   9 7 
T 6 5 4             3                   A K Q J 2           9 8 7 
K T 9               6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 4 3 
Q 7                 K T 8 5 2           A                   J 9 6 4 3 

  23.
A J 7 3             K T 5 2             4                   Q 9 8 6 
T 5 4 3             9 8 6               A K Q J 2           7 
4                   K T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J 9 6 3 
K T 7 5             J 9 8 6             A                   Q 4 3 2 

  24.
Q T 9 7 6 3         A J 8 5 2           4                   K 
4                   9 8 7 5 3           A K Q J 2           T 6 
K T 9               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 6 4 3 
7 5 3               Q T 2               A                   K J 9 8 6 4 

  25.
K Q 9 8 6 3         A T 7 2             4                   J 5 
9 6                 T 8 5               A K Q J 2           7 4 3 
9 3                 K J                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 6 4 
K Q 9               7 6 5 2             A                   J T 8 4 3 

  26.
K 5 3               J 9 7               4                   A Q T 8 6 2 
8 7 6               T 5 4 3             A K Q J 2           9 
K J 6               T 9 4               A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
8 7 5 3             J 6 4               A                   K Q T 9 2 

  27.
K Q 9 2             A T 7 5 3           4                   J 8 6 
T 8 7 5 3           9                   A K Q J 2           6 4 
6                   T 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 3 
J 9 3               Q T 8 7 4           A                   K 6 5 2 

  28.
K 8 3 2             A Q J 9 7 6         4                   T 5 
7 6 4               3                   A K Q J 2           T 9 8 5 
9 4                 K T 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         J 
J 8 7 6             Q 2                 A                   K T 9 5 4 3 

  29.
Q 9 5 2             A K T 7 6 3         4                   J 8 
8 7 6               T 9                 A K Q J 2           5 4 3 
-                   T 6 4 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 
K T 9 8 6 4         2                   A                   Q J 7 5 3 

  30.
A J 9 8 6 3         K Q 5 2             4                   T 7 
9 5                 T 8 7 4             A K Q J 2           6 3 
-                   J 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 4 3 
J T 8 7 4           K 9 2               A                   Q 6 5 3 

  31.
A 9 8 5 3           J 7                 4                   K Q T 6 2 
6                   T 8                 A K Q J 2           9 7 5 4 3 
J T 4 3             K 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
K J 7               Q 8 6 5 4 2         A                   T 9 3 

  32.
-                   K Q J 9 8 7 6 3     4                   A T 5 2 
8 6 4               7 5                 A K Q J 2           T 9 3 
9 3                 J 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
Q T 9 8 7 6 4 3     K                   A                   J 5 2 

  33.
9 8 6 2             K Q J T 3           4                   A 7 5 
8 7 6               9 3                 A K Q J 2           T 5 4 
J 9 3               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 4 
9 6 5               K Q J T 3 2         A                   8 7 4 

  34.
8 6 3 2             Q T 5               4                   A K J 9 7 
6 5                 T 9 7 4 3           A K Q J 2           8 
J 3                 4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 9 6 
8 6 4 3 2           Q J 7 5             A                   K T 9 

  35.
K 5 3               A Q J T 9 8 6       4                   7 2 
T 9 7 3             6                   A K Q J 2           8 5 4 
6 4 3               9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 
K 7 2               J 9 6 3             A                   Q T 8 5 4 

  36.
K T 9 8 6 5 2       A Q J               4                   7 3 
6                   9 7 5               A K Q J 2           T 8 4 3 
6                   J 9 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
K Q 8 7             T 4 3 2             A                   J 9 6 5 

  37.
A Q 8 7 3 2         K                   4                   J T 9 6 5 
T                   9 5 4               A K Q J 2           8 7 6 3 
K 6                 J T 9 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
K J 9 6             Q 8 7 5 2           A                   T 4 3 

  38.
A Q 8 6             K 9                 4                   J T 7 5 3 2 
8 5 3               9 4                 A K Q J 2           T 7 6 
K J 4 3             T 6                 A Q 8 7 5 2         9 
Q 5                 K J T 8 7 6 2       A                   9 4 3 

  39.
K T 9 8 6           J 5 3 2             4                   A Q 7 
6 3                 9 8 4               A K Q J 2           T 7 5 
K 9 3               J 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 6 
J 6 4               K 9 5 3             A                   Q T 8 7 2 

  40.
A Q 6 2             9 7 5 3             4                   K J T 8 
7 4                 T 9 8 6 3           A K Q J 2           5 
J 6 4 3             9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 
K 8 7               Q T 3               A                   J 9 6 5 4 2 

  41.
A Q T 6             K J 3 2             4                   9 8 7 5 
T 8 4               7 6                 A K Q J 2           9 5 3 
6 4 3               J                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 9 
T 3 2               Q J 9 7 6 4         A                   K 8 5 

  42.
A T 3               J 8 6 2             4                   K Q 9 7 5 
4 3                 9 8 7 6             A K Q J 2           T 5 
J 9 6 3             4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 
6 5 4 2             K Q J 7             A                   T 9 8 3 

  43.
8 7                 A K J 3 2           4                   Q T 9 6 5 
7 6 5 4             9 8 3               A K Q J 2           T 
K T 9               J 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         6 4 
T 5 4 2             K 7 6               A                   Q J 9 8 3 

  44.
6 2                 K J 9 7 5           4                   A Q T 8 3 
9 8 5               T 7 4 3             A K Q J 2           6 
J 9                 -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 6 4 3 
K Q T 5 3 2         J 8 6 4             A                   9 7 

  45.
T 7 6               K Q J 8 2           4                   A 9 5 3 
9 5 4               T 8 3               A K Q J 2           7 6 
6                   J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 4 3 
Q J 8 7 5 3         T 9 4               A                   K 6 2 

  46.
K Q T 6 3 2         A                   4                   J 9 8 7 5 
T 9 7               5 4                 A K Q J 2           8 6 3 
T 9                 K J 6 4             A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
J 5                 K T 8 7 6 3         A                   Q 9 4 2 

  47.
K 6                 A Q J T 7           4                   9 8 5 3 2 
4 3                 6 5                 A K Q J 2           T 9 8 7 
T                   J 9 6 4             A Q 8 7 5 2         K 3 
K T 9 7 6 5 4 3     J 8                 A                   Q 2 

  48.
A K Q J T 7 2       8 6                 4                   9 5 3 
5 3                 9 7                 A K Q J 2           T 8 6 4 
9 4                 T 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 
9 7                 K Q T 8 4 2         A                   J 6 5 3 

  49.
A K J 8 7 2         6                   4                   Q T 9 5 3 
9 5 4               T 8 7 6             A K Q J 2           3 
-                   9 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 6 4 
K Q J 5             8 7 6 4 3 2         A                   T 9 

  50.
A 9                 K Q J 3 2           4                   T 8 7 6 5 
T 5                 9 7 4 3             A K Q J 2           8 6 
T 9 6               K 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J 4 
Q 9 8 5 4 2         K 7                 A                   J T 6 3 

  51.
A K Q J 9           7 6 5 3 2           4                   T 8 
8 5 4               T 9                 A K Q J 2           7 6 3 
4 3                 -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 9 6 
K J T               Q 9 8 6 5 3         A                   7 4 2 

  52.
K Q T 6             8 5 3 2             4                   A J 9 7 
9 8 5 4             7 6 3               A K Q J 2           T 
K 4                 J T 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 
K Q 5               8 7 3               A                   J T 9 6 4 2 

  53.
Q 8 5 2             A J 3               4                   K T 9 7 6 
7 5 3               9 6 4               A K Q J 2           T 8 
K J 9               6 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         T 
Q 7 4               K 9 8 5             A                   J T 6 3 2 

  54.
A J 3 2             Q 9 5               4                   K T 8 7 6 
T 9 8               7 5 4               A K Q J 2           6 3 
4                   T 9 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 
J 8 7 5 4           K Q 2               A                   T 9 6 3 

  55.
Q 6 5               A J 8 7 3 2         4                   K T 9 
T 6 5 3             9 8 7               A K Q J 2           4 
9                   -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 6 4 3 
Q 8 6 4 3           K 9 7 5             A                   J T 2 

  56.
Q 8 7 2             A K 5               4                   J T 9 6 3 
T 9 6 5             8 4 3               A K Q J 2           7 
J T 9               K 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         6 
5 2                 9 7 6 4             A                   K Q J T 8 3 

  57.
Q J T 5             9 7 3 2             4                   A K 8 6 
T 5 3               8                   A K Q J 2           9 7 6 4 
T                   K J 9 4 3           A Q 8 7 5 2         6 
K 9 6 4 3           Q 5 2               A                   J T 8 7 

  58.
T 5 3               Q 9 7 2             4                   A K J 8 6 
3                   T 7 5 4             A K Q J 2           9 8 6 
T 4                 J 9 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
K T 8 7 6 5 2       4 3                 A                   Q J 9 

  59.
K 9 8 2             J T 7 6 5           4                   A Q 3 
8 7 4 3             T 9 6 5             A K Q J 2           - 
6                   9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 4 3 
K T 7 6             9 3 2               A                   Q J 8 5 4 

  60.
Q J 3               A 7 6 5 2           4                   K T 9 8 
5 3                 9 6                 A K Q J 2           T 8 7 4 
J T 9 6             K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
9 6 5 3             Q 8 7 2             A                   K J T 4 

  61.
K 7 6               Q J 8 2             4                   A T 9 5 3 
T 8 7 5 3           6                   A K Q J 2           9 4 
4                   K J 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 
J T 6 3             Q 9 8 4             A                   K 7 5 2 

  62.
K J 6               Q T 8 7 2           4                   A 9 5 3 
7 6 3               T 5                 A K Q J 2           9 8 4 
6                   K J 4               A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 3 
T 9 8 6 4 2         K 5 3               A                   Q J 7 

  63.
K J 8 3             9 7 5 2             4                   A Q T 6 
-                   9 8 7 6 5 4 3       A K Q J 2           T 
J 6 4               K                   A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 3 
T 9 8 4 3 2         6                   A                   K Q J 7 5 

  64.
A T 9 6 5 3 2       K J                 4                   Q 8 7 
-                   9 7 6 5 3           A K Q J 2           T 8 4 
6 3                 J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 4 
Q 6 4 3             J T 8 2             A                   K 9 7 5 

  65.
T 9 6 3             8 7 5               4                   A K Q J 2 
7 4                 8 5 3               A K Q J 2           T 9 6 
9 4 3               J T                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 6 
K J 6 5             Q T 7 4 2           A                   9 8 3 

  66.
Q 7 5 3             J T 9 6             4                   A K 8 2 
8 5                 7                   A K Q J 2           T 9 6 4 3 
J 9 3               K T 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
K 7 6 4             Q J 8 5 2           A                   T 9 3 

  67.
T 7 6 5 2           A Q J 9 8 3         4                   K 
7 5                 9 8                 A K Q J 2           T 6 4 3 
J 6 3               K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 9 
5 4 2               Q J T               A                   K 9 8 7 6 3 

  68.
9 8 7 6             Q 5 2               4                   A K J T 3 
3                   8 6 5               A K Q J 2           T 9 7 4 
J T 6 4             K 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
9 6 4 3             K Q J T 2           A                   8 7 5 

  69.
Q J 8 6             A T 7 2             4                   K 9 5 3 
8 7                 9 5 4 3             A K Q J 2           T 6 
T 9                 K J 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 3 
Q J 9 5 4           T 3                 A                   K 8 7 6 2 

  70.
A J 9 7 3           K T 5 2             4                   Q 8 6 
9                   T 8 7 5             A K Q J 2           6 4 3 
J T 9 4             K 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         6 
7 5 2               K T 8               A                   Q J 9 6 4 3 

  71.
T 8 5 2             K J 7               4                   A Q 9 6 3 
8 7 5               9 3                 A K Q J 2           T 6 4 
K                   T 9 6 4 3           A Q 8 7 5 2         J 
K J 7 5 3           9 6 2               A                   Q T 8 4 

  72.
9                   K T 7               4                   A Q J 8 6 5 3 2 
9 5                 T 8 7 6             A K Q J 2           4 3 
K J 9 4             T 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
T 9 8 6 5 2         K J 4               A                   Q 7 3 

  73.
K J 8 7 2           Q T 5               4                   A 9 6 3 
7 5 4               T 9                 A K Q J 2           8 6 3 
4                   J 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 3 
K J 8 2             T 7 6 5 3           A                   Q 9 4 

  74.
J 5 2               A Q T 9 8 6         4                   K 7 3 
6 4 3               9 7 5               A K Q J 2           T 8 
K J T               -                   A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 4 3 
T 8 4 3             Q 7 6 2             A                   K J 9 5 

  75.
K Q 9 8 3           A T                 4                   J 7 6 5 2 
8 6 3               T 7 5 4             A K Q J 2           9 
-                   J T 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 9 6 4 
Q J 8 6 2           K T 9 7             A                   5 4 3 

  76.
A J T 8 2           9 7                 4                   K Q 6 5 3 
9 6 4               T 5                 A K Q J 2           8 7 3 
9                   6 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K J T 
Q 8 5 2             K T 9 7 6 3         A                   J 4 

  77.
A K T 9 5 3         Q 8 2               4                   J 7 6 
8 5 4               T 9 6               A K Q J 2           7 3 
J 9                 K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 6 3 
J 9                 K T 8 3 2           A                   Q 7 6 5 4 

  78.
6 5 3 2             K 8 7               4                   A Q J T 9 
T 9                 8 7 6 5 4           A K Q J 2           3 
K T 4               6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J 9 3 
K 8 7 4             T 9 6 5             A                   Q J 3 2 

  79.
A Q T 7 5           J 9 8 6 3           4                   K 2 
4                   T 8 6 3             A K Q J 2           9 7 5 
K J T 9             6 4 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
6 3 2               T                   A                   K Q J 9 8 7 5 4 

  80.
K T 9 2             A J 8 7             4                   Q 6 5 3 
T 8 5 4             7 3                 A K Q J 2           9 6 
9                   J 6 3               A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
K 8 4 3             Q J T 6             A                   9 7 5 2 

  81.
K Q T 8 7 3         A J 9 6             4                   5 2 
8                   9 7 6 5 4 3         A K Q J 2           T 
9 6                 K J                 A Q 8 7 5 2         T 4 3 
Q 9 7 4             J                   A                   K T 8 6 5 3 2 

  82.
K J 9 7 5           Q 6 2               4                   A T 8 3 
9 5 4               T 7 3               A K Q J 2           8 6 
T 9                 6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 4 3 
5 4 3               Q J 9 8 7 2         A                   K T 6 

  83.
K Q T 8             A 6 5 3 2           4                   J 9 7 
T 3                 5 4                 A K Q J 2           9 8 7 6 
9 4                 K J 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         T 
T 9 7 6 4           K 3                 A                   Q J 8 5 2 

  84.
A K T 3             Q 8 7 5             4                   J 9 6 2 
9 3                 -                   A K Q J 2           T 8 7 6 5 4 
K J 3               T 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 
8 5 4 3             K Q J 9 7 6         A                   T 2 

  85.
A K T 9 8 3 2       J 6 5               4                   Q 7 
5                   9 7 6               A K Q J 2           T 8 4 3 
T 3                 J 9 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
T 8 3               K J 7 6             A                   Q 9 5 4 2 

  86.
A J 9 3             7 6 2               4                   K Q T 8 5 
8 4 3               T 9 7 6 5           A K Q J 2           - 
4                   T 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 9 6 
K J 9 8 7           T 4 3               A                   Q 6 5 2 

  87.
Q 7 6               A J 9 8 2           4                   K T 5 3 
T 5 3               8 4                 A K Q J 2           9 7 6 
K 6 3               4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 9 
Q J 8 3             T 9 7 5 2           A                   K 6 4 

  88.
A K 7 3 2           8 6                 4                   Q J T 9 5 
8 5                 9 7 4 3             A K Q J 2           T 6 
T 6                 J 9                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 3 
K Q 7 2             J T 6 5 4           A                   9 8 3 

  89.
9 8 3               Q 7 6 5             4                   A K J T 2 
5                   9 8 3               A K Q J 2           T 7 6 4 
6 3                 K J T 9 4           A Q 8 7 5 2         - 
K Q J 6 4 3 2       9                   A                   T 8 7 5 

  90.
J 9 5               8 6                 4                   A K Q T 7 3 2 
7 5 3               9 8 6 4             A K Q J 2           T 
J T 9 6             K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         3 
K Q T               9 8 4 3 2           A                   J 7 6 5 

  91.
8 6 5               A Q J T 7 3         4                   K 9 2 
T 9 4 3             7 6 5               A K Q J 2           8 
T 9                 4                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 6 3 
9 7 6 2             Q 5 4               A                   K J T 8 3 

  92.
J T 6 3             A K Q 2             4                   9 8 7 5 
6 3                 5 4                 A K Q J 2           T 9 8 7 
K T 6 4             9 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J 
6 5 2               Q J 9 7 4           A                   K T 8 3 

  93.
A Q T 9             K 8 5 2             4                   J 7 6 3 
9 8 6 3             T                   A K Q J 2           7 5 4 
K 3                 9 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 6 
5 4 2               K J T 7 6 3         A                   Q 9 8 

  94.
K 9 7 3 2           Q J                 4                   A T 8 6 5 
T 3                 7 6                 A K Q J 2           9 8 5 4 
J 9                 K T 6               A Q 8 7 5 2         4 3 
K 9 4 3             Q J T 8 7 6         A                   5 2 

  95.
Q                   A 8 7 6 2           4                   K J T 9 5 3 
8 7 6 4             9                   A K Q J 2           T 5 3 
J T 3               K 4                 A Q 8 7 5 2         9 6 
K Q J 9 4           T 8 5 3 2           A                   7 6 

  96.
6 2                 K T 9 3             4                   A Q J 8 7 5 
T 6                 9 4 3               A K Q J 2           8 7 5 
J T 9 3             6                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K 4 
K J T 5 3           Q 8 7 6 2           A                   9 4 

  97.
K Q J 6 3           T 8 7 5 2           4                   A 9 
6                   9 7 5 4             A K Q J 2           T 8 3 
9 4                 T 3                 A Q 8 7 5 2         K J 6 
J T 9 5 4           K 8                 A                   Q 7 6 3 2 

  98.
A K T 8 7 5 3       6                   4                   Q J 9 2 
9 5                 T 8 7 4 3           A K Q J 2           6 
9                   K T 6 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         J 4 
9 7 5               K Q 2               A                   J T 8 6 4 3 

  99.
K 2                 A 9 8 5 3           4                   Q J T 7 6 
9 8 5               7 6                 A K Q J 2           T 4 3 
J 6 3               9                   A Q 8 7 5 2         K T 4 
J T 9 7 3           Q 6 5 4 2           A                   K 8 

 100.
A J 8 7 3           T                   4                   K Q 9 6 5 2 
T 8 3               9 7 6               A K Q J 2           5 4 
K                   9 6 4 3             A Q 8 7 5 2         J T 
K 9 6 2             Q T 8 5 4           A                   J 7 3 

Generated 100 hands
Produced 100 hands
Initial random seed 1603034647
Time needed    0.002 sec

are 100 random deals using the following Dealer code:

predeal south S4, HAKQJ2, DAQ8752, CA
produce 100

I guess the auction could go 1♦-AP on board 45.

I doubt it. I'd overcall 1♠ on the East hand in the passout seat. Then when South reverses into hearts, West raises to 2 or 3♠.

[Vampyr]

fromageGB, on 2020-October-21, 08:23, said:

I don't understand this.
2♣ - 2♦(say, for me an ace or a king)
2♥(natural suit) - 2♠ (denies 3 card support)
3♦ (second suit)
is normal, and I don't see a problem.
Then if R bids 3♥ it is preference, and then 3♠ asks "stuff", or if R prefers diamonds he shows "stuff" with bids that bypass hearts, so here that would be 3♠ upwards.

I don’t think many people play 2♠ as you do; maybe they should but anyway interference will be inconvenient.

A popular style is to jump to game at your second turn (as responder) if you lack a key card.