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#1 User is offline   euclidz 

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Posted 2023-March-17, 13:52

Your partner Doubles his RHO's (Declarer) opening bid of (a pre-emptive 3 clubs. What would expect to see in your partner's hand?
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Posted 2023-March-17, 13:54

If you are playing (3x) X as take out I expect a strong hand with support for the other suits, invitational + , or a single suit too strong to bid at the 3or4 level
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Posted 2023-March-17, 14:22

View Postjillybean, on 2023-March-17, 13:54, said:

If you are playing (3x) X as take out I expect a strong hand with support for the other suits, invitational + , or a single suit too strong to bid at the 3or4 level


4 level may not be available for some suits, whether you play 4♦ as LM might also influence whether you can have 5♦/5M intending ELC
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Posted 2023-March-17, 14:23

View Posteuclidz, on 2023-March-17, 13:52, said:

Your partner Doubles his RHO's (Declarer) opening bid of (a pre-emptive 3 clubs. What would expect to see in your partner's hand?

A hand similar to a hand, that would make a T/O of a 1C opening.
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Posted 2023-March-17, 15:11

Thanks . . . I took it as a hand with opening points 0, 1 or max of 2 small clubs and the other suits.
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Posted 2023-March-17, 15:19

View Posteuclidz, on 2023-March-17, 15:11, said:

Thanks . . . I took it as a hand with opening points 0, 1 or max of 2 small clubs and the other suits.


Reasonable, the more you stray from this, the bigger hand you need (what are you going to do with a balanced 27 with 3 clubs ?)

The auction you need to discuss is 3♣-X-P-3/4♥-P-3/4♠ as to whether this can just be ♦/♠ and not show extra values.
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Posted 2023-June-30, 05:10

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2023-March-17, 14:23, said:

A hand similar to a hand, that would make a T/O of a 1C opening.

Except with a couple of hand types removed. Most big balanced hands that would have doubled and then bid NT over 1♣ will overcall 3NT; and the GOSH (good one-suited hand) hand type just bids the suit at an appropriate level, since after a preempt, "X then bid" shows a good flexible hand rather than a one-suiter.
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