Imps. All vul. Opening lead club 3. What is the safest line?
Play problem Decisions, decisions
#1
Posted 2018-April-02, 14:03
Imps. All vul. Opening lead club 3. What is the safest line?
#3
Posted 2018-April-02, 16:00
FelicityR, on 2018-April-02, 15:21, said:
If you choose to play the J, it wins.
#4
Posted 2018-April-02, 18:40
#5
Posted 2018-April-02, 19:27
gszes, on 2018-April-02, 18:40, said:
That was almost my line but I chose to ruff a heart back to hand. I'm curious, though, what is best.
#6
Posted 2018-April-02, 20:45
Winstonm, on 2018-April-02, 19:27, said:
IMO, ♥ ruff to hand is superior to ♣ ruff because:
1) LHO might have led from Q...5th or even Q...6th of ♣. In the latter case, the ruff is imminent; in the former case, K♠ with LHO and ♣-ruff is a self inflicted wound
2) LHO might have led a stiff ♥ instead of #1
Also, after winning ruffing ♥, probably try J♠ or T♠ of spades to try and sneak past KS with RHO in case the ♣ ruff exists.
#7
Posted 2018-April-02, 22:09
#8
Posted 2018-April-02, 23:38
Winstonm, on 2018-April-02, 22:09, said:
Don't see the need to take a ♦ pitch before AK of ♦ (win T1 in hand to preserve entry to board). But I suspect that it probably wouldn't have made the play problem so interesting ?
#9
Posted 2018-April-03, 08:33
foobar, on 2018-April-02, 23:38, said:
That's true - and my problem. I never considered the J9 of diamonds anything but losers. Suffice it to say, LHO held: K9x, x, xxxxx, Q10xx. By returning to hand with a heart, I either was going to be overruffed or self-uppercutted.
#10
Posted 2018-April-03, 14:54
Winstonm, on 2018-April-02, 14:03, said:
Winstonm, on 2018-April-02, 16:00, said:
Winstonm, on 2018-April-02, 22:09, said:
foobar, on 2018-April-02, 23:38, said:
Interesting problem, WinstonM. I don't know what's the best line but, if you intend to win the opening lead in hand, then it costs nothing to
Try dummy's ♣J, at trick 1. When that finesse wins, a reasonable continuation is
Cash ♣A.
Cross to dummy's ♠A.
Discard a ♦ on ♥A.
Discard another ♦ on ♣K,
Return to hand with ♦A, and
Advance ♠Q.
Most lines involve playing 2 rounds of ♣s early but this line runs the risk that that an opponent can ruff the 3rd round of ♣s. with a small ♠.
Another winning line is ♣K, Discard a ♦ on ♥A, ♦AK, ruff a ♦. As the cards lie, you can return to hand with ♣A, to lead ♠Q.
Admittedly, it's easier to find successful lines after peeking at the full deal
#11
Posted 2018-April-03, 16:48
nige1, on 2018-April-03, 14:54, said:
Try dummy's ♣J, at trick 1. When that finesse wins, a reasonable continuation is
Cash ♣A.
Cross to dummy's ♠A.
Discard a ♦ on ♥A.
Discard another ♦ on ♣K,
Return to hand with ♦A, and
Advance ♠Q.
Most lines involve playing 2 rounds of ♣s early but this line runs the risk that that an opponent can ruff the 3rd round of ♣s. with a small ♠.
Another winning line is ♣K, Discard a ♦ on ♥A, ♦AK, ruff a ♦. As the cards lie, you can return to hand with ♣A, to lead ♠Q.
Admittedly, it's easier to find successful lines after peeking at the full deal
Think of this as a trick 1 problem - what line are you going with. I decided to ruff 1 diamond and pitch 1 diamond and rely on the spades being either stiff 9 or 32. I was concerned about LHO holding 3 clubs only and the 9xx in spades so that if I played 3 rounds of clubs and lost a spade to Easts king, the 4th club would then doom me. So I won the king in dummy, pitched a diamond on the heart ace, and played 2 rounds of diamonds, on which the Q10 came down. Now I had another quandry - start on spades and risk a diamond ruff if LHO holds Kx and RHO holds 9xx or continue to ruff the master diamond to strip east of the ruff risk. I decided to ruff the J of diamonds, then I had to either come back to hand with a third club ruffed or a heart ruffed. I chose hearts - unsuccessfully.
#12
Posted 2018-April-04, 13:50
Winstonm, on 2018-April-03, 16:48, said:
nige1, on 2018-April-03, 14:54, said:
This is the line suggested by Gszes
#13
Posted 2018-April-04, 14:39
#14
Posted 2018-April-05, 06:05
Winstonm, on 2018-April-04, 14:39, said:
♣s or ♥ (or both) might be 6-1.
If you believe defenders' carding, LHO has length in both minors, making a shortage in ♥ likely.
If LHO has ♠Kx doubleton, and 6 ♣s, then RHO can ruff a ♣, anyway, whether or not you cross to ♣A.
If you successfully re-enter hand with a ♥ ruff, you aren't out of the woods. If RHO has ♠Kx doubleton, and 5 ♥s, he can lead a 3rd ♥ to promote LHO's ♠9.
20-20 hind-sight, of course
Imps. All vul. Opening lead club 3. What is the safest line?