[Oceanss]

BBO main club, unknown opps, IMPs. White aga red. you deal and you get:
AT852 K K AKJ742
1) Playing 2/1 what do u open and why? and what you plan rebid?
2) In case u play some kind of strong club, would you open that as 1C?

[steve2005]

Difficult hand. Theoretically should count Kings for 2 pts. But unless partner has A or Q in that suit they are probably worthless.
So playing 2/1 I would bid 1♣ and rebid ♠ as often as you can.
Playing a strong club you could open a club you have the points. If your side doesn't have the balance of power you will regret it.
If you don't open a strong club, your options aren't as good as in standard. You either open 2♣ which is best and spades might get lost.
If you open 1♠ it will be hard to show longer clubs.

[mike777]

1c easy so far


plan is to rebid 2s no problem yet

[silvr bull]

The OP hand can be a strong powerhouse, but ONLY if partner has a black suit fit. If I make strong bids immediately, but then discover that partner has mostly red cards, it will be difficult to tell partner that my early strong bid was not justified. Better for me to open 1C and then rebid 1S. If partner then bids 1NT, 2D, or 2H, I will jump to 3S. If partner then bids 3NT, I will pass and hope he makes it.

[heart76]

Playing 2/1 I open 1S.
Using 5542 openings this has IMHO some advantages:
- you show 5S right away
- you let responder use 2/1 answers if he has the values
- you deny 6S with your rebid, whatever comes back to you (a S rebid would guarantee 6+ cards) and you have the values for a 3C rebid
- you can leave a NT bid by partner in, but you can reopen their 3NT with 4C, natural and slam invitational with 6+ cards, e.g.:
1S - 2H / 3C - 3NT / 4C

I would personally open 1S also with weaker hands.

[The_Badger]

Technically, even though many players don't favour it playing 5M and 2/1 - I acknowledge that, with 5-5 black 1♣ is the correct opening, so with 6-5 I'm always opening 1♣.

Playing Precision it's always a 1♣ opener for me too. Kaplan and Rubens hand evaluator puts it as a tad over 20 even with the two singleton Ks.

[MrAce]

1-1♣

2-1♣

[xbabarx]

MrAce, on 2017-July-16, 01:57, said:

1-1♣

2-1♣

agree

[rmnka447]

By losing trick count, OP's hand is a 5 loser hand -- 2 in S, 1 each in the red suits, 1 in C. It's much too strong a playing hand to stray from bidding out the pattern of the hand.

1 ♣ - 1 any red suit
1 ♠ - 2 any red suit
2 ♠ - ?

and partner knows the story that you are 6/5 and strong enough not to invert the bidding as you would with a minimum hand.


1) Definitely 1 ♣

2) N/A as I don't play strong 1 ♣ and can't comment

[baraka]

The important thing is not the HCP you have, it's where they are !

♠AKxxx ♥x ♦x ♣AQxxxx. This hand is just as strong as the previous one. The problem is that the ops will lead ♥ or ♦, you will ruff the 2nd round and then what ever you will lose control of the hand not being able to play your clubs. The trick is you need absolute control (AKQ)of one of your 2 suits to be able to open 1♣. Othewise, open 1♠ then bid ♣.

[aawk]

Holding a 5-6 pattern with the 6 card being the lower suit you have to agree how strong it must be to bid your 5 card twice revers.

To me it's 17+ HCP and 4 LTC so I would open 1♠.

Holding 18 HCP I can understand a 1♣ openings bid but with a extreme pattern just valuing your hand on the HCP count could get you into trouble, with two kings both in singletons is a good example (33 % of your points are badly placed).

Could a 1♠ openings bid get you into more trouble than 1♣ ?. Yes but is just 1 board and with any agreement (or convention) you have to keep track if it worked or not and adapt if needed.

[aawk]

Holding a 5-6 pattern with the 6 card being the lower suit you have to agree how strong it must be to bid your 5 card twice revers.

To me it's 17+ HCP and 4 LTC so I would open 1♠.

Holding 18 HCP I can understand a 1♣ openings bid but with a extreme pattern just valuing your hand on the HCP count could get you into trouble, with two kings both in singletons is a good example (33 % of your points are badly placed).

Could a 1♠ openings bid get you into more trouble than 1♣ ?. Yes but it is just 1 board and with any agreement (or convention) you have to keep track if it worked or not and adapt if needed.

[Kaitlyn S]

silvr bull, on 2017-July-15, 23:20, said:

The OP hand can be a strong powerhouse, but ONLY if partner has a black suit fit. If I make strong bids immediately, but then discover that partner has mostly red cards, it will be difficult to tell partner that my early strong bid was not justified. Better for me to open 1C and then rebid 1S. If partner then bids 1NT, 2D, or 2H, I will jump to 3S. If partner then bids 3NT, I will pass and hope he makes it.

I agree with this.

[msjennifer]

1)1Club.then bid and rebid spades.
2)Of course ,1Club.

[Stefan_O]

5-6 seems to be a matter of religion....

I normally (esp at MP) forget about the 6th club, open 1S and bid as 5-5,
since the 5-card major mostly is more important to get across than 6-card minor.

[miamijd]

Stefan_O, on 2017-July-17, 08:18, said:

5-6 seems to be a matter of religion....

I normally (esp at MP) forget about the 6th club, open 1S and bid as 5-5,
since the 5-card major mostly is more important to get across than 6-card minor.

Then how do you distinguish 56 hands from 65 hands?

[Stefan_O]

miamijd, on 2017-July-17, 09:16, said:

Then how do you distinguish 56 hands from 65 hands?

5-6 I bid as 5-5.

6-5 I bid as 6-5.