what to bid what to bid with hand
#1
Posted 2016-April-18, 14:39
#2
Posted 2016-April-18, 15:21
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#3
Posted 2016-April-18, 20:22
Start with whatever flavor of NMF you play. If partner supports spades, you can set a force and do some cuebidding, but youll likely end up in 6C or 6S depending on how things go.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#4
Posted 2016-April-19, 01:59
#6
Posted 2016-April-19, 05:58
The unbalanced distribution suggests my hand has ruffing values and would therefore be more valuable in a trump
contract rather than in NTs.
- Dr Tarrasch(1862-1934)German Chess Grandmaster
Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)
"Any palooka can take tricks with Aces and Kings; the true expert shows his prowess
by how he handles the two's and three's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
#7
Posted 2016-April-19, 06:04
#8
Posted 2016-April-19, 15:59
#9
Posted 2016-April-19, 17:27
Zelandakh, on 2016-April-19, 15:59, said:
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#10
Posted 2016-April-19, 18:00
1eyedjack, on 2016-April-19, 17:27, said:
I am not sure it is possible. Surely we all remember the hand where lefty opened, we have a 5/5 19- count, and PhilG advocated passing? That post, at least, was not serious.
EDIT: Found it. It is most entertaining.
#11
Posted 2016-April-19, 20:15
Vampyr, on 2016-April-19, 18:00, said:
EDIT: Found it. It is most entertaining.
I'm pretty sure it's possible. The incompetent are often simply unable to realize the depths of their own incompetence. See Dunning-Kruger effect. To me it's perfectly possible that Phil has been trapped playing in a solely rubber bridge playing circle for past 40 years or whatever with people playing antiquated methods, not exposed to an environment where michaels cue bids or negative doubles are routine, not playing duplicate, then somehow managed to discover BBO and the forums a couple years ago. And has a completely warped view of what constitutes good bridge, and of his own skill level.
If it is all an elaborate prank, then it's a pretty long time to be running a prank.
#12
Posted 2016-April-20, 01:17
Stephen Tu, on 2016-April-19, 20:15, said:
Not as long as the Secret Bridge Olympics (so far).
I miss 32519.
#14
Posted 2016-April-20, 05:13
If it is a random partner on BBO then you should assume they play common agreements, and you can happily bid 2♦ as the minor that has not yet been mentioned. This is assumed to be forcing, and opener will try to make a descriptive rebid, such as spades with 3 card support. You can then decide on a spade, club, or NT contract. You have the strength to try for a slam.
If it is a friend with whom you have started together, and you have no agreements, then you must find some bid that you think is forcing. Clearly bidding spades will not be forcing, and would 2♦ be taken as forcing? If not, you might want to bid 3♦ and then keep bidding something else when partner keeps raising. You should reach slam by that point and he might stop. If he is from a UK background, he might take 2♣ as forcing, even though he has bid the suit. If you think none of these will work, then PhilG's scorned advice might do it. Many beginners say 4NT is always ace asking. Failing that, you could bid 4♣. This is not going to be passed and may be taken as ace asking. If he bids 5♣, bid 6♣.
It should be emphasised that the best way forward is an exploratory bid such as new minor forcing, to determine first what the contract denomination should be. Then you determine the level.
#16
Posted 2016-April-20, 10:14
The troll du mois however is a bad bridge player that spouts dangerous advice to new visitors of the fora with no other redeeming value.
Winner - BBO Challenge bracket #6 - February, 2017.
#17
Posted 2016-April-20, 10:18
#18
Posted 2016-April-20, 12:10
manudude03, on 2016-April-20, 10:18, said:
This is a very valid argument. Of course you cannot prevent partner placing a yarborough on the table, but you can make it more bearable by not having silly opening bids. Not so long back, many people round here were opening 2NT on 19/20.
#19
Posted 2016-April-20, 12:24
fromageGB, on 2016-April-20, 12:10, said:
I had a meeting with a new partner this morning. He mentioned he played 19-20 2NT, I took that off the card before he finished his sentence . That range is really common where I am though, probably more common than any other range.
edit: The point of his argument if I remember right was that 2NT should be something like 23-24, while not suggesting any way to fill up the rest of the NT ladder.
Too many 2NT contracts are going down
#20
Posted 2016-April-20, 15:56
manudude03, on 2016-April-20, 12:24, said:
Can't oblige, but I can offer 2NT as 21/22 in a sound NT ladder ! That's with 1NT = 15/16. If you don't mind a 3-point range 1NT, then 2NT = 22/23.