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#1 User is online   Cyberyeti 

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Posted 2015-October-17, 04:47

Suit contract, opening leader has AKxxx in a suit he has bid, and his partner has not raised. Dummy has Qx in that suit and Qxx in the trump suit. He leads the A then K, his partner peters showing even, but in doing so it is apparent to everybody at the table that she has more cards in the suit.

When he switches, does declarer have a case for a possible ruff and discard ?
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Posted 2015-October-17, 05:53

If continuing the suit is an LA (and from your description it seems to be) then the UI clearly made the switch more attractive then continuing the suit. If there is damage (and there seems to be damage), declarer is entitled to an AS.

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Posted 2015-October-17, 08:12

How is it apparent she has more cards in the suit?
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Posted 2015-October-17, 09:27

View PostVampyr, on 2015-October-17, 08:12, said:

How is it apparent she has more cards in the suit?

Let me guess: BIT (hesitation)?
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Posted 2015-October-18, 04:42

View PostVampyr, on 2015-October-17, 08:12, said:

How is it apparent she has more cards in the suit?

It is a stipulation by the OP. From there, we proceed. The question is whether Declarer has a case for adjustment. He isn't looking for disciplinary action.
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Posted 2015-October-18, 08:07

View Postpran, on 2015-October-17, 09:27, said:

Let me guess: BIT (hesitation)?


Not a straight hesitation, it was all very quick, but half pulling one card then playing another

I posted this in abstract rather than posting the whole hand because there were some other considerations on the particular hand that made it unlikely but not impossible that declarer held 4 of the suit (he would have to have opened 1N on a 4225 which we don't do often).
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Posted 2015-October-18, 10:43

This is an all too-common situation. 3rd hand begins his/her peter to show an even number, then realizes it could be construed as a doubleton. The fumble is usually an unconscious "Oh, *****". Law 23 covers the case for redress, without 'accusing'.

Players who do this, and they do it regularly, are ignorant to the standard solution which has been written up many times over the years. First card indicates whether you can (over)trump the third round or not --- if not, second card is suit-pref.
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Posted 2015-October-18, 13:10

View PostVampyr, on 2015-October-17, 08:12, said:

How is it apparent she has more cards in the suit?

View Postpran, on 2015-October-17, 09:27, said:

Let me guess: BIT (hesitation)?

View PostCyberyeti, on 2015-October-18, 08:07, said:

Not a straight hesitation, it was all very quick, but half pulling one card then playing another

Indeed!
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