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#1 User is offline   kenrexford 

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Posted 2015-September-03, 20:19

QJxxx
Axx
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KJ10xx

1D by partner, 1H overcall, 1S you, pass.
2S partner, 3H, to you...
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Posted 2015-September-03, 21:14

While I suppose that partner may have only three spade support, my LTC of 6 indicates we have a probable game in that case, so game would be probably be percentage. And partners have been known to raise on four! So I raise to 4♠.
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Posted 2015-September-03, 21:40

4c game try

will bid 4h over 4d
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Posted 2015-September-03, 22:18

 mike777, on 2015-September-03, 21:40, said:

4c game try

will bid 4h over 4d

While I have a lot of pretty cards, starting a cue-bidding sequence on a possible 5-3 fit scares me. And partner's anticipated diamond cue in this auction reveals duplicated values.
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Posted 2015-September-04, 04:01

I agree with "game try". I do not agree that 4♣ is a game try here. Double is.
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Posted 2015-September-04, 04:08

Game try? :( :angry: :ph34r:
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Posted 2015-September-04, 07:17

Yeah, thought so. Partner bid 3S! Claimed a fix when everyone else was in 4S+1 because perhaps every other table was pushed into 4S. I thought the hand called for a mild slam try.
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Posted 2015-September-04, 07:45

Yes, but was the slam try the best way to coax the double in game.
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Posted 2015-September-04, 07:56

 cherdano, on 2015-September-04, 04:08, said:

Game try? :( :angry: :ph34r:


Where you gonna play if game try denied? 3.5♠ lol
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Posted 2015-September-04, 14:35

I'd bid 4 ♠ in a flash over 3 ♥. Yeah, partner's hand is somewhat of a misfit with mine. But we do have an 8+ card fit. I just think there are just too many hands where 4 ♠ makes opposite this 6 loser player.
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Posted 2015-September-04, 16:13

Normally with such a good offensive hand with a high chance of an overtrick I would control bid in search of slam. Here my void in diamonds probably duplicates the values in partner's main suit, so I would not. If the contract was doubled my main difficulty would be avoiding a premature sign of glee. But avoiding game. Ken has all my sympathies and none go to his partner.
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Posted 2015-September-04, 16:14

dup
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Posted 2015-September-04, 19:09

I don't get this hand. I bid 4S automatically and don't consider anything else even remotely sensible.
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Posted 2015-September-06, 00:10

you guys give up on slam...slam not zero.....that is the point

game try ..try at humor clearly you guys did not get it

I make slam try on hand that played in part score which was the point
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Posted 2015-September-07, 11:04

Grand could be cold: AKxx x xxxxx AQx, very difficult to find out about what you need to know for slam to be good. You need to find out about fourth trump and honours in clubs (preferably the ace).
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Posted 2015-September-07, 11:24

 KurtGodel, on 2015-September-07, 11:04, said:

Grand could be cold: AKxx x xxxxx AQx, very difficult to find out about what you need to know for slam to be good. You need to find out about fourth trump and honours in clubs (preferably the ace).

Would you rebid 2♠ with AKxx x xxxxx AQx? I wouldn't.

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Posted 2015-September-07, 11:31

 Trinidad, on 2015-September-07, 11:24, said:

Would you rebid 2♠ with AKxx x xxxxx AQx? I wouldn't.

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No I wouldn't, but the person who held this hand didn't bid game, I can see their partner not bidding 3♠ with that hand. I guess the better argument is that AKxx x xxxxx Axx and now grand is on a finesse, although I guess you might even bid more than 2♠ with that.
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Posted 2015-September-07, 13:55

 KurtGodel, on 2015-September-07, 11:31, said:

No I wouldn't, but the person who held this hand didn't bid game, I can see their partner not bidding 3♠ with that hand. I guess the better argument is that AKxx x xxxxx Axx and now grand is on a finesse, although I guess you might even bid more than 2♠ with that.

That depends a bit on whether 1S showed 5 spades, doesn't it?
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Posted 2015-September-07, 15:35

4♠.

If partner moves with VKCB I will cooperate.
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Posted 2015-September-16, 05:06

 PhilKing, on 2015-September-07, 15:35, said:

If partner moves with VKCB I will cooperate.

Ah it is a VKCB hand? I was thinking it would end up being a Bluhmer. :unsure:
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