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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2015-July-17, 17:12



Butler IMPs. Do you bid?
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Posted 2015-July-17, 18:15

I thought this was fairly automatic but interested in opinions of course!
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Posted 2015-July-17, 18:46

pass
On average, we do not rate to make 5c so the downside potential is quite large, I like to strain to bid when short in opps suits but the colors just put too much risk in play for me.
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Posted 2015-July-17, 20:42

Pass
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Posted 2015-July-17, 21:53

If they are sound bidders and we overcall we will probably be -500 to -1100 versus -420 to -480. If they are overbidding and we overcall, we might be -200 to -500 versus +50. If partner has the big hand and hears an overcall, we will be lucky to be down 2 doubled in slam versus down 2 our way defending 4 ♥. An overcall is losing bridge. A TO double at this level promises a good 15 hcp. Pass is the only bridge action possible.
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Posted 2015-July-17, 22:54

OK I have a hand that can open a preemptive 3♣ at these colors although I suspect some might want an even better suit. WTP?..I surely can't bid 5♣ or X here.
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Posted 2015-July-18, 00:25

Wouldn't occur to me.
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Posted 2015-July-18, 02:28

Agree with Rowland, auto pass!
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Posted 2015-July-18, 04:32

This is a totally clear pass. At these colours, if you changed the hand to:

♠A43
♥9
♦K5
♣AJ98654

I would still pass.
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Posted 2015-July-18, 05:11

Here's a follow-up question:



Is there any reason to find a (takeout) X as West?
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Posted 2015-July-18, 08:09

View PostJinksy, on 2015-July-18, 05:11, said:

Here's a follow-up question:



Is there any reason to find a (takeout) X as West?


When partner has all that we still need clubs and diamonds to come in to make game.

The acid test in this kind of situation is to switch the West and North hands and see what would have happened. In this instance we would go for 800 or so.
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Posted 2015-July-19, 06:23

Who said that preempts do work, and that's why opps do it?
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