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Balancing hand

Poll: what now? (40 member(s) have cast votes)

what do you bid now?

  1. 2H (7 votes [17.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.50%

  2. 2S (30 votes [75.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  3. 2N (1 votes [2.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.50%

  4. 3C (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3D (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 3H (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 3S (2 votes [5.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.00%

  8. other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   andrei 

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Posted 2015-July-13, 18:05

IMP, red vs white

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LHO deals:

(1D) - P - (P) - 1S
(P) - 2D - (P) - ??

2/1 agreed, not much else.
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Posted 2015-July-13, 18:35

2♠
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Posted 2015-July-13, 19:46

agree with timo
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Posted 2015-July-13, 20:03

agree with mikeh
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Posted 2015-July-13, 20:57

If we're missing game, partner can make another move. 5332 is not great.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 01:42

Agree with Wesley
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Posted 2015-July-14, 02:01

View Posthelene_t, on 2015-July-14, 01:42, said:

Agree with Wesley


Agree with Helene! :P
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Posted 2015-July-14, 02:23

2S (agree with all above and Mr Ace closed the loop!). I could have a little less HCPs (how much more depends on tour agreements with partner, I play that non-X denies a goodish opening hand) but my shape is not great and I have no descriptive bid. 3D is probably a bit excessive although at IMPs with all those 10s and 9s I wouldnt blame my partner for commiting this bid as I wouldnt cue bid with a dull 12/13.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 04:27

2h - i have a lot more than i might have and good honour structure and i want to show where my values are.

to solve issues like this i play 2c as a UCB in all overcall auctions to preserve a 2d grope by overcaller for hands which are dubious about signing off, i.e. effectively play drury.

there are plenty of hands for p which make game where he'd often be hanging us for protecting if he bids on. is there anyone [sensible] here who doesn't protect with plenty of 7 counts?
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Posted 2015-July-14, 04:42

I have to do something dramatic now. 3♠ seems right; bidding 2♠ is a 'nothng' bid once I bid 1♠ earlier. I dislike 2H when I don't have four (plus it implies an extra spade).
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Posted 2015-July-14, 05:01

View Postjodepp, on 2015-July-14, 04:42, said:

First, I ask myself: "Why didn't I bid 2♠ before?"


Ya-what? We have a flat 11-count with only five spades. 1S then 2S seems clear; I'm not actually certain what a direct 2S would show in "expert standard", but it will surely have six spades and more offense than this.

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Posted 2015-July-14, 05:06

very slow double post
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Posted 2015-July-14, 05:52

I think this to some extent depends on how weak you think you might have been for a re-opening bid and what if anything pard might construe about a 2♥ bid. Absent any positive thoughts about all of that, I fall back on 2♠. I have quite a lot for a reopening hand, but, not quite enough to get excited.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 06:11

2♠ for me also. I have more than a minimum, but not all that much.

Also I won't be surprised if the punchline is that 2♦ was natural.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 06:31

Hi,

I show some life, 2H, alternative 3S.

I could be a Ace lighter + something for the 1S overcall.

The only problem is, 2D does not gurantee a spade fit.

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Posted 2015-July-14, 09:55

View PostP_Marlowe, on 2015-July-14, 06:31, said:



The only problem is, 2D does not gurantee a spade fit.




Why not? Partner could bid no trumps or a suit. If he had a game force (seems implausible), he could jump.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 12:36

Bidding anything other that 2S is begging for a minus score.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 13:18

View Postahydra, on 2015-July-14, 05:01, said:

Ya-what? We have a flat 11-count with only five spades. 1S then 2S seems clear; I'm not actually certain what a direct 2S would show in "expert standard", but it will surely have six spades and more offense than this.

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I mis-saw the hand - I thought it had a sixth spade :) I edited the post when I noticed.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 15:40

View Postahydra, on 2015-July-14, 05:01, said:

I'm not actually certain what a direct 2S would show in "expert standard", but it will surely have six spades and more offense than this.

ahydra

A balancing jump overcall is usually played as intermediate, i.e., an opening bid with a good 6-card suit.
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Posted 2015-July-14, 15:58

2♠ is enough as all I have is a good 11 HCP 5332 hand
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