[diana_eva]

TMorris, on 2014-November-12, 06:32, said:

But in the case of the original post it is a matter of correctly describing your agreements to your opponents as you are obliged to do. If you regularly open 14 counts 1NT you should say so and both these hands if opened 1NT are IMO clear evidence of that.

No, the hands were opened at two different tables, by two different players, each playing with a random partner. The post was about hand evaluation, not about disclosure. I just wanted to know how close it is to upgrade, that's all.

[NickRW]

TMorris, on 2014-November-12, 06:32, said:

But in the case of the original post it is a matter of correctly describing your agreements to your opponents as you are obliged to do. If you regularly open 14 counts 1NT you should say so and both these hands if opened 1NT are IMO clear evidence of that.

I agree that if you upgrade 14 counts with any sort of regularity (say more than 15/20% or so) then your card should say 14+-17 and your announcement should be good 14 to 17 or something similar.

Contrawise, if it takes holding something like:

Ax
KQx
Txx
AJT9x

before you upgrade, then you're doing it so rarely that you're tripping over the foibles of the incurable point counters.

Nick