[gszes]

Jinksy, on 2014-November-01, 11:54, said:

Maybe at IMPs this makes sense, but at MP what does W do with such as x KJT Axxx xxxxx?

In the long run what type of hand do you think will be more common? the penalty type or the
tox type and when you think about it you know why most choose tox:)

You would have to pass with your example hand but what would you do with the
hand in the problem??

[PhantomSac]

Most people don't choose takeout lol. Of course a penalty X is more likely when you start with PASS (you cannot make a negative double of 2H, so if you have a good hand you have hearts) and then you want to bid over 3H.

[beatrix45]

E has seven almost certain tricks in a 3♠ contract even if the sky falls in, so how can he/she get seriously damaged by bidding 3♠ over 3♥? If partner has nothing, NS have an easy ♥ game. Imo, this is not an expert forum problem. E should know better than to pass 3♥. Whether W should have hazarded a negative double over 2♥, meh. I don't think I would, but I really dunno.