[ArtK78]

 the_clown, on 2014-November-04, 07:35, said:

If anyone still thinks 3♦ is even a remote possibility please scroll up and read the posts of Phil, Timo and mcphee.

I like to think that I am a good and understanding partner, but if the person opposite me bids 3♦ on this I may throw the cards in his face.

My scores:

1N -10
2N - 6
2♦-5
1♠-4
2♣-2
3NT-1
3♦-1

If you throw the cards in my face, we are going to have a serious problem.

[Aardv]

I think this is quite likely to be a 26-count part score, even opposite Hx of hearts.

Therefore 3♦ or 2♥ are too much (if you bid 2♥ you can't drop partner's likely 2♠ bid, and the auction will often wind on to something unmakeable).

1NT is sensible if it shows 6-9, as it usually does in the UK. I have an idea that it's played a fair bit stronger in the USA (is it?) which I think would make it less attractive.

2♦ is ok too. A Moysian 2♦ should play about as well as a stopperless 1NT. And what hand am I afraid of missing game opposite?

However, I am a notorious pessimist.

[eagles123]

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1NT is sensible if it shows 6-9, as it usually does in the UK.

eh?

[Lovera]

It seems to me that here vary point of views makes bidding free ( or more modern ) but rules are a warrant for success than why don't follow them ?

[yunling]

Interesting comparing this thread with
http://www.bridgebas.../61568-disater/

[MrAce]

 yunling, on 2014-November-05, 18:18, said:

Interesting comparing this thread with
http://www.bridgebas.../61568-disater/

Good job Yu. Seems like you busted Aguaman and Hog on the slippery zone.
I think forums are useful more than I think, at least some of us are improving (Joke)

[the hog]

 MrAce, on 2014-November-05, 19:14, said:

Good job Yu. Seems like you busted Aguaman and Hog on the slippery zone.
I think forums are useful more than I think, at least some of us are improving (Joke)

Yes, I must have learned something over the past year. Perhaps from reading your posts? Nah! More like Justin's.

[aguahombre]

Sorry, folks. But, the situations are not quite the same. I would not mind advancing in a suit which is KJ 4th; I do object to a 3-level advance to a 1-bid takeout with j9XX.

Also, the theme remains valid that takeout doubler doesn't need to bounce into 3NT without confirming a stop in the Opening suit....in either case.

[the hog]

 aguahombre, on 2014-November-05, 20:25, said:

Sorry, folks. But, the situations are not quite the same. I would not mind advancing in a suit which is KJ 4th; I do object to a 3-level advance to a 1-bid takeout with j9XX.

Also, the theme remains valid that takeout doubler doesn't need to bounce into 3NT without confirming a stop in the Opening suit....in either case.

Certainly valid arguments agh.

[nige1]

 eagles123, on 2014-May-11, 13:31, said:

imps - best bid for south?

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 johnu, on 2014-May-12, 13:37, said:

Using a scoring system where there are no really bad bids,
1NT = 10, 2♠ = 6, 3♦ = 6, 3♠ = 6, 3NT = 6, 2♦ = 3, Pass = 3, , redouble = 3, 1♦ = 3

 johnu, on 2014-May-12, 23:01, said:

Also, 2♥ = 2.9

 johnu, on 2014-May-13, 11:15, said:

P.S. Additional scores 4NT (Blackwood) = 3, 5♦ = 3

 kuhchung, on 2014-May-13, 11:28, said:

thanks nige1

Accepting the challenge 1N = 10, 2♥ = 9, 2♦ = 8, 1♠ = 7, 3♦ = 6, Pass = 3.

 yunling, on 2014-November-05, 18:18, said:

Interesting comparing this thread with http://www.bridgebas.../61568-disater/

[MrAce]

 the hog, on 2014-November-05, 19:33, said:

Yes, I must have learned something over the past year. Perhaps from reading your posts? Nah! More like Justin's.

Which Justin? The one that you frequently disagreed and at one point called him "JNONLOGIC" ?

All this time I thought you are a stubborn man. In one topic you proved me totally wrong bro! :-)