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Posted 2013-July-09, 04:31

View PostMrAce, on 2013-July-08, 16:59, said:

Do you all play 3NT natural and to play over a "23 balanced or 8 tricks hand" 2 ?

I always play 3NT as natural unless I've already denied sufficient strength, or it's explicitly agreed as something else.
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Posted 2013-July-09, 05:01

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-09, 04:21, said:

Its been a couple of years since I faced this semi-psyche openings, and the best tactic still remains the same, RHO wants to play 4, this must mean that it is a good tactic to start the bidding at the 5 level. Bidding 5 (or 4NT) earns a top as you will get at least +200 in 5 something. Being a pussy and bidding slow as I did was a disaster, also because my partner is not reliable.





Yes, seems like you figured it all out now. Only pussies would make a slow 2 or pass or whatever in this position as you said very well. Shame on us pussies!

Now you have the experience to know what to do with 6322 hand and 3 or 4 quick defensive tricks over a 2 opening which may still hold a 22 balanced.. You can't be stopped from now on by joker 2 clubbers.... You could have gotten it right on this one too, if it wasn;t that unreliable pd sitting across the table!! :P From this i assume he is not reliable in providing you such a good support each time when you jump to 5 level with a 6322 hand :o

Way to go bro !

EDIT: I loved the vulnerability change between the hand in OP and your bidding diagram btw :P

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-07, 17:38, said:

Q10
Ax
AKJxxx
Axx

nobody vul, MPS



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Posted 2013-July-09, 09:21

I tried to fix it Timo, with no luck, it was nobody vul, still going to the 5 level directly is the winner.
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Posted 2013-July-09, 12:15

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-09, 09:21, said:

I tried to fix it Timo, with no luck, it was nobody vul, still going to the 5 level directly is the winner.


Well obviously 5 direct would be the winner bro (so would a slow reach of 5, since they make 4M despite your defensive values and 5 goes only down2) , your pd provided a hand which reduced your defensive aspects while he gave you a little trump support such as 5 of them :P

Btw, you need to play close to DD if not DD in order to hold it to down 2, if they double you in 5. Or you are bailing -800 even after finding truck loads of diamonds :) (I am aware though they are unlikely to double you with what they and your pd held)
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Posted 2013-July-09, 15:48

I Think you are not getting the point Timo, you are never ever going to play 5m if you bid them, they have double fit in the majors and the bidding won't die there.
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Posted 2013-July-10, 02:17

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-09, 15:48, said:

I Think you are not getting the point Timo, you are never ever going to play 5m if you bid them, they have double fit in the majors and the bidding won't die there.

Because your partner cannot possibly hold xxxx/xxxx/x/xxxx after the 2 opening?
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Posted 2013-July-10, 03:32

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-09, 15:48, said:

I Think you are not getting the point Timo, you are never ever going to play 5m if you bid them, they have double fit in the majors and the bidding won't die there.


Ok, i give up. :)
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Posted 2013-July-10, 14:23

View PostFluffy, on 2013-July-09, 09:21, said:

I tried to fix it Timo, with no luck, it was nobody vul, still going to the 5 level directly is the winner.

Change '&v=e&' to '&v=0&'
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