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Posted 2013-July-07, 15:47



I don't care much for the redouble, but everyone has been in worse contracts. You get a heart lead, suppose you cross over to the king of clubs and lead a spade up.
What do you do if West plays a) the jack, b) the queen, or c) the king?
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Posted 2013-July-07, 16:19

I'll only play low on the Jack.

 wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-July-07, 17:14

Since we already played a club to hand, obviously low on J and A on K.

When Q is played

A is right if Q is stiff

Low is right if QJ doubleton

Doesn't matter what u play if W has KQ tide. But W may hold KQ +4 clubs so playing A seems to have a little more edge for success. You can even apply restricted choice when Q is played, from KQ W will play Q or K depending on his mood or whatever evilish thoughts going in his mind, but holding stiff Q he has to play the Q.
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Posted 2013-July-07, 18:06

View PostMrAce, on 2013-July-07, 17:14, said:

You can even apply restricted choice when Q is played, from KQ W will play Q or K


Or Q from QJ. I'm ducking on a and b strongly suspecting that the trump shortage is with the 5 bidder and it looks to be the only way to keep lho off lead for the dreaded diamond shift if that's the case.

If lho was inspired enough to play the K from KJ, I'm buying them a beer.
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Posted 2013-July-07, 18:42

View Postggwhiz, on 2013-July-07, 18:06, said:

Or Q from QJ. I'm ducking on a and b strongly suspecting that the trump shortage is with the 5 bidder and it looks to be the only way to keep lho off lead for the dreaded diamond shift if that's the case.

If lho was inspired enough to play the K from KJ, I'm buying them a beer.


When Q is played and you put Q stiff and QJ doubleton probability in a fight, Q stiff wins. Possibilities are same but the preference of the player in which order he would play QJ doubleton diminishes the chances of QJ tide. And there is KQ tide side of this story too.

If you re read what i wrote, you will see that even if we agreed to totally disregard the behaviours of how one plays QJ tide, they will (Q stiff and QJ tide) will equal each other and we will come down to what to do for our best interest if Q was from KQ.

Anyway;

If you are wrong (Q isstiff) you are down.

If i am wrong (QJ tide) i still have an out (QJ tide+ 4clubs with W)

If KQ tide, you are down, again, while i have the same out (KQ + 4 clubs by W)

It is very hard to tell from this bidding who is short in hearts. E may as well be short in clubs. He did not bid 5 before he bid 5, perhaps he doesn't have Q of next to his A. His pd promised him nothing but 5 card hearts, yet he is the one who doubled and neither NS nor EW has the hcp ownership of the hand. Can you blame any East player for bidding 5 at these colors when they hold 6 hearts and pd said he has at least 5 of them ? I don't think he needs a specific reason, such as holding stiff in only spade suit, in order to bid a 5 . He is the one who doubled though, telling his pd not to bid any further, no ? Which tricks did he rely on for defeating 5 ? I am not saying he can not be short, but i think it is not as clear as you think it is, just because he bid 5.
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