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#21 User is offline   aguahombre 

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Posted 2013-February-26, 09:52

View PostArtK78, on 2013-February-26, 09:09, said:

Unless things have changed since I used to direct games (and I admit it has been quite a number of years), in the ACBL playing directors are not allowed for any game above the level of a club game. And, in special events held in clubs, such as Sectional Touraments in Clubs or North American Pairs qualifying games, playing directors are not allowed.

So, the issue of a playing director's game suffering in a qualifying game for a national event would not arise.

Not quite. Playing Directors are allowed in STAC (Sectional Tournaments At Clubs). There is a current condition that these playing directors are only eligible for the local section awards, but even that restriction is under review and might be scrapped.

This doesn't affect what you said in that last sentence, though.
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Posted 2013-February-26, 09:56

View PostArtK78, on 2013-February-26, 09:09, said:

Unless things have changed since I used to direct games (and I admit it has been quite a number of years), in the ACBL playing directors are not allowed for any game above the level of a club game. And, in special events held in clubs, such as Sectional Touraments in Clubs or North American Pairs qualifying games, playing directors are not allowed.

So, the issue of a playing director's game suffering in a qualifying game for a national event would not arise.

Accordomg to ACBL regulations:

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Non-playing directors are encouraged but not required for games having not more than one section of 17 tables or less for the following special events held at clubs or units: ACBL-wide International Fund Games, ACBL-wide Charity Games, Junior Fund Games, Senior Pairs, Worldwide Pairs, ACBL-wide Instant Matchpoint Games, Membership Games, NABC Fund Raisers, GNT Fund Raisers, Club Appreciation Games, Sectional Tournament at Clubs (STAC) Games, the Canadian Olympiad, the COPC, the CNTC, the North American Open Pair Club and Unit Qualifying stages, the North American 49er Pairs, the Grand National Team (GNT) Club and Unit Qualifying stages, Unit Championships, and Unit Charity Championships.

At this club there was a single 5 table section, so a playing director was allowed.

I seem to recall a recent change concerning eligibilty of a playing director to win master points in a STAC game. My recollection, which could easily be wrong, was to allow the playing director to win section master points in a STAC game but not overall awards. I think that previously the director (and partner)could not receive master points.
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Posted 2013-February-26, 10:46

View Postbluejak, on 2013-February-26, 08:05, said:

I am a great believer that if you are a playing TD you do your job just as fully as if you are not. Specifically, if you have to rule on a board you are yet to play then you rule, and you take care to know enough to rule correctly. If it affects your own game, tough, and if it is a national qualifier, double tough.


Right, and how does the club function when it runs out of volunteers?
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Posted 2013-February-26, 10:47

View PostVampyr, on 2013-February-26, 10:46, said:

Right, and how does the club function when it runs out of volunteers?

Dunno. I'll tell you when it happens.
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Posted 2013-February-26, 11:05

View Postbluejak, on 2013-February-26, 10:47, said:

Dunno. I'll tell you when it happens.


Well, I need some advice for my club, which has run out of volunteers.
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Posted 2013-February-26, 11:15

View PostVampyr, on 2013-February-26, 11:05, said:

Well, I need some advice for my club, which has run out of volunteers.

Did you run out of volunteers because the players insisted they get off their butts and make a table ruling in situations such as the one in the OP?
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Posted 2013-February-26, 21:36

Hm. I wonder if that applies to the club level of NAP qualifiers or GNT qualifiers. I'd have to check the CoC.
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Posted 2013-February-27, 08:15

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-February-26, 11:15, said:

Did you run out of volunteers because the players insisted they get off their butts and make a table ruling in situations such as the one in the OP?


We haven't actually run out of volunteers -- I just wanted an answer form David, who had refused to give one. I don't think that the possibility should be ignored. A club paying London rent does not need the expense of paid directors.
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